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Apr 27 2022 08:40am
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 27 2022 09:26am)
I don't think we prosecuted too many of the allied soldiers or jewish prisoners in ww2 who commited war crimes against german soldiers. I expect (if ukraine survives) that no one except russian lackeys (belarus) will be rushing forward with calls for prosecuting ukrainian soldiers at the end of all this.

I sympathize with the ukrainians more than usual specifically because i come from a background that has faced the same atrocities the russians have commited in ukraine. You will not find me caring for any amount of dead invading russians no matter the circumstances.


We didn't hold significant trials for low level enemy soldiers. There were only 24 defendants in the Nuremberg trials and 28 defendants in the Tokyo trials. We focused on military leadership.
Personal animosities and grievances are what motivate people to commit war crimes, rational people motivated by justice are who stop them. I've got a family history on the receiving end of these same atrocities and several more, and also of helping bring war criminals to a fair trial and just sentence. If people who suffered through the Nazi occupation could find the reason to distinguish criminals from the innocent, why should people generations later and untouched by conflict hold psychological hangups?

I've got to say, of all the things I sympathize with the least, literal Nazi war crimes is the absolute bottom of the bucket.
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Apr 27 2022 08:41am
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 27 2022 10:07am)
Im just going by what ive been reading on r worldnews since the invasion started

Where do you get your news?


Twitter/Telegram increasingly, as those are some of the best for 1st hand accounts of reality on the ground.

Here is a 1st hand source of a protest happening in Russian occupied Kherson, being reported by an Ukrainian. There are hundreds of such videos, there are hundreds of such videos on the Russian side not showing protests but showing interviews with locals or Russian troops distributing food to locals, Ukrainians thanking Russians, etc (pro-Russian propaganda obviously)

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1519243161213747200

So if you have evidence of Russia setting up and using concentration camps or gas chambers, something that happened to Jews during WW2 feel free to post them. It's a trash comparison, it completely minimizes the unprecedented shit that happened to Jews.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 27 2022 08:52am
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Apr 27 2022 08:43am
Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 14:39)
Go watch. I've seen you are up for propaganda, so you have to eat from both the dishes.


this one, good propaganda ?


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Apr 27 2022 08:45am
Quote (Goomshill @ 27 Apr 2022 17:40)
We didn't hold significant trials for low level enemy soldiers. There were only 24 defendants in the Nuremberg trials and 28 defendants in the Tokyo trials. We focused on military leadership.
Personal animosities and grievances are what motivate people to commit war crimes, rational people motivated by justice are who stop them. I've got a family history on the receiving end of these same atrocities and several more, and also of helping bring war criminals to a fair trial and just sentence. If people who suffered through the Nazi occupation could find the reason to distinguish criminals from the innocent, why should people generations later and untouched by conflict hold psychological hangups?

I've got to say, of all the things I sympathize with the least, literal Nazi war crimes is the absolute bottom of the bucket.


Well, Mossad did the rest. I couldn't say I'm judging them for vigilantism.
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Apr 27 2022 08:47am
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If there were some Azov scum hiding, I'd leave there a smoking crater.
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Apr 27 2022 08:49am
Quote (ferdia @ 27 Apr 2022 11:12)
If you can provide a source to prove that they were about to be encircled, i will read it and consider my position on events. I have already stated the reasons why I believe they retreated. If you have not read that, feel free to do so (or not).
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These events were month ago, here is example article from that time about Ukraine counter attack and encirclement risk for Russia troops:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/03/23/ukraines-counterattack-what-we-know/?sh=3a397eeab29a
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Apr 27 2022 08:54am
Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 14:47)
If there were some Azov scum hiding, I'd leave there a smoking crater.


Russians changed tactics and decided to invade small towns and villages now.
Imagine all the courageous soldiers looting, killing, raping, torturing unargmed villagers.
Because we have proofs they are doing that.

Which side should i chose now ? Help me...
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Apr 27 2022 08:59am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 27 Apr 2022 17:54)
Russians changed tactics and decided to invade small towns and villages now.
Imagine all the courageous soldiers looting, killing, raping, torturing unargmed villagers.
Because we have proofs they are doing that.

Which side should i chose now ? Help me...


How about killing their own citizens, looting, torturing and raping them, genociding their own region for years? I really don't know what side should you choose.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 27 2022 09:00am
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Apr 27 2022 09:00am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 27 2022 10:41am)
Twitter/Telegram increasingly, as those are some of the best for 1st hand accounts of reality on the ground.

Here is a 1st hand source of a protest happening in Russian occupied Kherson, being reported by an Ukrainian. There are hundreds of such videos, there are hundreds of such video on the Russian side not showing protests but showing interviews with locals or Russian troops distributing food to locals (pro-Russian propaganda obviously)

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1519243161213747200

So if you have evidence of Russia setting up and using concentration camps or gas chambers, something that happened to Jews during WW2 feel free to post them. It's a trash comparison, it completely minimizes the unprecedented shit that happened to Jews.


Agree its a tad hyperbolic as russia isnt using gas chambers but they do check many of the same boxes as the nazis
- make russia/germany great again
- personality cult around putin/hitler
- rape murder and execution of ukrainian/jewish women
- kidnapping and deportation of ukrainian/jewish men women and children to labour camps within germany/russia
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Apr 27 2022 09:13am
Also i see your claim of russians distributing food to locals and raise you videos of russian looting ukraine businesses
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