If you invade a sovereign nation and commit war crimes, no one is going to care when you cry that the defenders you're trying to exterminate are also committing war crimes

Considering the russian savages are treating ukrainian civilians like the nazis treated the jews i say its a perfect comparison. The invading russians are simply evil, i would say its safe to assume the Ukrainian pows are getting treated worse than the ukrainian civilians at the hands of the russian savages.

They're not. You either have no idea of what's actually happening in this war or you have no idea what happened during WW2 to the Jews.

Im just going by what ive been reading on r worldnews since the invasion started

Where do you get your news?

Well its not perfectly fine by me, its called a war crime, and its a reason that top members of the Ukrainian military should be hung as war criminals. That's what the Geneva and Hague conventions lay out, and its what we did to Nazis after WW2 for their war crimes.
When military commanders give orders to their troops that no quarter should be given, its a clear violation of international law and a crime that carries the death penalty.

There's arguments for the Russian war crimes, particularly those targeting civilians in Bucha and other areas where we can presume Russian troops executed civilians outside of just artillery bombardment and neutralizing the resistance. But in those cases, we're reliant on self-serving propaganda sources, and its hard to distinguish between civilians executed and civilians as collateral damage- the latter being specifically exempted as a war crime by precedent. Shown case in point in the trial of Lothar Rendulic, acquitted of deaths as collateral damage but convicted of executed hostages and reprisal killings. A distinction we were keen to make after WW2 given that the allies had razed cities like Tokyo, Dresden and Hamburg with mass civilian casualties. I think evidence of Russian atrocities will be more laid bare in the aftermath of this invasion than during the middle of it, clouded by the fog of war and obvious propaganda. It was the same thing with the Syrian War, it was truly impossible to assess the actual scope of what Russia and Assad were doing when the White Helmets were blatantly faking footage and reports. It doesn't diminish the actual war crimes that took place, but it does obscure them.

The difference with this example of a Ukrainian war crime is that it comes from Ukrainian sources and the military's own mouthpiece, so we don't have reason to doubt it as a product of Russian propaganda, and its completely unambiguous, they directly stated they would kill surrendering troops.

agree with this.. There should be NO war crimes on the side defending their own territory.. If they want to skull fuck the guy trying to kill his wife.
fine by me

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This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 27 2022 08:32am

I don't think we prosecuted too many of the allied soldiers or jewish prisoners in ww2 who commited war crimes against german soldiers. I expect (if ukraine survives) that no one except russian lackeys (belarus) will be rushing forward with calls for prosecuting ukrainian soldiers at the end of all this.

I sympathize with the ukrainians more than usual specifically because i come from a background that has faced the same atrocities the russians have commited in ukraine. You will not find me caring for any amount of dead invading russians no matter the circumstances.

Russian soldiers are bombing civilians in Ukraine. Is that good propaganda ?

Go watch. I've seen you are up for propaganda, so you have to eat from both the dishes.