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Apr 27 2022 04:44am
Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 27 2022 05:40am)
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/2/7327569/
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Why looters, rapists, children murderers, tormentors, who massacred unarmed civilians should be gently held prisonners ? i don't get it.
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Why looters, rapists, children murderers, tormentors, who massacred unarmed civilians should be gently held prisonners ? i don't get it.


Well they shouldn't . But depending on who is the liberator or aggressor sometimes even if it happens like rape, cases will be dropped against those perpetrators.
It is a very uncomfortable and difficult situation.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 27 2022 05:35am)
Why looters, rapists, children murderers, tormentors, who massacred unarmed civilians should be gently held prisonners ? i don't get it.


Should or shouldn't is irrelevant. Cause and effect. If you abuse POWs in a manner deemed offensive to the internationally-agreed rules of war, you risk backlash. In this specific scenario, I observe that enough people and governments in the West have decided that ethnically Russian people are fair game for limitless suffering, therefore there's not really much risk of backlash - the Western Pravda will spin it however they please. I'd be surprised at the sheer amount of jingoistic bloodlust before Covid, but now, it's obvious to anyone paying attention how easily-controlled and manipulated the great masses of humanity are to become instruments of war and death.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 27 2022 05:56am)
Murdering POWs is why we hung Nazis at Nuremberg. The Nazis in Ukraine not only posted videos of themselves torturing and murdering POWs multiple times, but their military even made an official public order that they would execute any artillerymen they captured. A more direct war crime than Hitler's Kommandobefehl, which at least had the pretense of executing spies and saboteurs yet clearly extended to uniformed soldiers, hence Hitler's secrecy around it. The Ukrainian military directly told their troops to execute uniformed soldiers taken captive, right out in public.


Germany invaded russia in ww2. Russia is invading ukraine and trying to raze it to the ground. Executing members of an invading army is perfectly fine by me.

Would you consider the prisoners at the concentration camps murdering their nazi guards upon liberation a war crime?

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 Apr 2022 12:43)
Well they shouldn't . But depending on who is the liberator or aggressor sometimes even if it happens like rape, cases will be dropped against those perpetrators.
It is a very uncomfortable and difficult situation.


Absolutely, they should be made prisonners then judged, but in practice "it's war". When an entire unit surrender it can be done.
But when you arrive in a village where a bunch of 20 russians soldiers are doing war crimes on unarmed civilians since 3 weeks , well... "It's war" ...

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Should or shouldn't is irrelevant. Cause and effect. If you abuse POWs in a manner deemed offensive to the internationally-agreed rules of war, you risk backlash. In this specific scenario, I observe that enough people and governments in the West have decided that ethnically Russian people are fair game for limitless suffering, therefore there's not really much risk of backlash - the Western Pravda will spin it however they please. I'd be surprised at the sheer amount of jingoistic bloodlust before Covid, but now, it's obvious to anyone paying attention how easily-controlled and manipulated the great masses of humanity are to become instruments of war and death.


The only thing i could agree is that Putin declared war from a comfortable seat, sending men who have no intention to fight at all.
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Germany invaded russia in ww2. Russia is invading ukraine and trying to raze it to the ground. Executing members of an invading army is perfectly fine by me.

Would you consider the prisoners at the concentration camps murdering their nazi guards upon liberation a war crime?


This is some shit-tier logic. Why is it every comparison always drawn to the most extreme case of atrocities ever committed.

You realize that way more Ukrainian soldiers are POW's right? You realize for example that in the east there's approximately 60k Ukrainian soldiers trapped, many dying every day, many being captured or giving up on a daily basis. If it's okay for Ukraine to torture Russians then Russia can basically turn around and say this is how they are treating ours, therefore it's okay for us to treat them the same way.

Executions and torturing are part of wars but that doesn't mean we should try to make it okay for some side to do it. That's literally how all atrocities start.
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