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Apr 26 2022 12:28pm
Quote (thundercock @ Apr 26 2022 02:20pm)
I do not have a comprehensive list of all the threats and follow throughs that Russia has made during the past year. Having said that, here is what I have off the top of my head: all of their nuclear threats, their threats against Finland/Sweden, military retaliation against the West, etc.

I suppose you could argue that they would follow through with placing nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles in Kaliningrad but that doesn't really change anything, does it?


Idk what you mean with Finland/Sweden. The threat is basically they will militarize those borders if they join NATO, I don’t see them failing to follow up on that threat, of course they will follow through and defend that flank now.

Their nuclear threats are soft and not concrete ones so to say they haven’t followed up on them is you’d have to define the line we crossed that would of required a nuclear response.

I mean we’re seeing them follow through with the roubles for gas threat. We’ll see if it extends to others countries like Germany though.



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Quote (Ironfister @ 27 Apr 2022 02:02)
Dont know, maybe they dont really care about muslims in China?
Busy trying to destroy Israel maybe? :)


Because they look at who is coming out with the comments and question themselves who the hell have been bombing, displacing, killing millions of their so called " muslim brothers and sisters" for the past 40 years.
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Apr 26 2022 12:29pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 26 2022 06:15pm)
Its going to be chilly for the next few weeks in Krakow. Won't drop into freezing
Poland made a big show out of saying they would stop importing Russian gas next winter, circa december. Posturing, as they still don't have anything to replace it lined up, one LNG terminal does not supply a whole country. Half its gas and more than half its oil, what's the plan, beg the EU to reverse the direction of the pipelines?


They'll import as much as possible from Norway, however the issue is that the Baltic pipeline won't be done for another 6 months. They've got to buy LNG from the US in the interim. The only positive is that I can't see either of them screwing Poland on price even though they easily could

Russia will be laughing for the next few months as we struggle to replace supplies immediately, no doubt about that. Long term, this is bad for Russia, but then again Poland told everyone their master plan to stop buying Russian gas soon anyway
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Apr 26 2022 12:33pm
Quote (justhackitup @ 27 Apr 2022 01:59)
-A self sufficient, college grad in computer science, hard working, overtime loving, don't mess with me I won't mess with you American. Problem is, a large population of the world, yes world, is realizing they can cry until they get resources. Money, food, land, whatever. The world would be better off at least losing half the population. The world is too slow. Some parts are doing great and that's great. The rest, needs a culling. Looking at you big G, send another flood.

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I respect your reply, very direct.
That is what we need.
I may not agree with some points, but over all thank you.

A self sufficient Media and Com Grad here , but ended up doing FX and Remittance Trading in Hong Kong.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 26 2022 12:35pm
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They'll import as much as possible from Norway, however the issue is that the Baltic pipeline won't be done for another 6 months. They've got to buy LNG from the US in the interim. The only positive is that I can't see either of them screwing Poland on price even though they easily could

Russia will be laughing for the next few months as we struggle to replace supplies immediately, no doubt about that. Long term, this is bad for Russia, but then again Poland told everyone their master plan to stop buying Russian gas soon anyway


They can still buy Latvian Blend Crude
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Apr 26 2022 12:37pm
I googled "weapon shipments to Ukraine" after seeing on the news Germany is directly sending them tanks now.

I see this from 9 days ago ~

17/04/2022 - The US on Wednesday promised $800 million more in weapons for Ukraine as the Russian invasion enters its third month and Russian forces threaten to take the southern city of Mariupol and hammer the capital Kyiv with missile strikes. “Wish-list” items, including howitzers and helicopters, are being ushered to the conflict.

Russia has said that the threat of a nuclear war is very significant, as Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stressed the risks should not be underestimated. However, he added that there was a danger the risks were being “artificially” inflated. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin called the nuclear war rhetoric “very dangerous and unhelpful,” shortly after his visit to Kyiv.

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So basically the Russians are saying "if you continue to sell them weapons it makes life difficult for us. now you might think thats a good thing, but if things dont go well for us conventionally, we will have to resort to more direct methods."

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Apr 26 2022 12:38pm
Germany and France confirmed giving heavy weapons to Ukraine. Russia is trying to compensate sanctions by pumping in its reserves, was 480 billion, and it's down to 210.
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Apr 26 2022 12:40pm
its all very depressing.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 26 2022 11:28am)
Idk what you mean with Finland/Sweden. The threat is basically they will militarize those borders if they join NATO, I don’t see them failing to follow up on that threat, of course they will follow through and defend that flank now.

Their nuclear threats are soft and not concrete ones so to say they haven’t followed up on them is you’d have to define the line we crossed that would of required a nuclear response.

I mean we’re seeing them follow through with the roubles for gas threat. We’ll see if it extends to others countries like Germany though.


They also capitulated on that threat a couple weeks ago with some of the larger countries. They had to create that shell company to "save face." I suppose only time will tell but I think we can safely ignore most of the military threats from Russia if they are a serious escalation.

On another note, I'd like to hear your opinion on this:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/blinken-austin-kyiv-ukraine-zelensky-meeting/index.html

Seems that the "official" US policy is to cripple Russia to the point that they have very little offensive capability.
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Apr 26 2022 12:42pm
Quote (ferdia @ 27 Apr 2022 02:40)
its all very depressing.


I heard Israel is trying to hold summit talks between Russia and Ukraine to work out a peace plan. Is that true ?
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