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Sep 17 2021 09:08am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 17 2021 03:54pm)
Croatia was 8th most obese country of europe in 2016 increasing extremely fast, and in 2020 the news fall:
Croatia 1st obesity country in europe for men:
https://www.total-croatia-news.com/lifestyle/41870-obesity-croatian-men
Also: reduction in life expectancy in Croatia of as much as 3.5 years in the next 30 years.

Unacceptable personal attacks btw.


croatia had 1.5 mil ppl emigrating in last 10 years, which is around 25% of current population. if you were to visit it, you'd mostly see how it's populated by old people.
young ones in the age of 35> are fit in majority. good luck even signing up to any gyms there without connections as they're mostly full.
still, it's pointless talking of a large scale, as in the end we wont be able to change your own personal lack of discipline which made you look the way you do putting you in the high risk group for any virus ^_^

Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 17 2021 03:32pm)
Its exactly like me calling you a flat earther.. notice I stopped?
Most people that die may be obese or other.. doesn't make it a non problem.
Most anti vaxxer fall into the flat earther group. Doesn't make it 100%..


you called me a flat earther which i never was.
i'm calling him fat cos he is fat.

do you see the difference yet?

75% of covid deaths are obese monkeys. i doubt 75% of people against vaccine are flat earthers.
what makes you think im against vaccine btw? i said numerous times vaccines should be given to old people. they're great for anyone over 60 imo, and possibly for some people in their 50s

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Sep 17 2021 09:08am
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Sep 17 2021 09:15am
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 17 2021 07:57am)
lol, sure it does
and its not a vaccine.
Its an mRNA experiment with super kooks pushing it.
and your a trump tard if your all jabbed up.
and your always one jab away from being "unvaccinated"


thanks for proving my point
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Sep 17 2021 09:34am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 17 Sep 2021 17:08)
croatia had 1.5 mil ppl emigrating in last 10 years, which is around 25% of current population. if you were to visit it, you'd mostly see how it's populated by old people.
young ones in the age of 35> are fit in majority. good luck even signing up to any gyms there without connections as they're mostly full.
still, it's pointless talking of a large scale, as in the end we wont be able to change your own personal lack of discipline which made you look the way you do putting you in the high risk group for any virus ^_^



you called me a flat earther which i never was.
i'm calling him fat cos he is fat.

do you see the difference yet?

75% of covid deaths are obese monkeys. i doubt 75% of people against vaccine are flat earthers.
what makes you think im against vaccine btw? i said numerous times vaccines should be given to old people. they're great for anyone over 60 imo, and possibly for some people in their 50s


73.6%of Americans over the age of 20 are at least overweight, 42.5% are obese.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

If covid and weight were not correlated at all, you would still see 70+% of covid deaths occurring in fatties.

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Sep 17 2021 09:37am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 17 2021 08:15am)
thanks for proving my point


could you elaborate? :)
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Sep 17 2021 11:11am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 17 2021 08:34am)
73.6%of Americans over the age of 20 are at least overweight, 42.5% are obese.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

If covid and weight were not correlated at all, you would still see 70+% of covid deaths occurring in fatties.



Thank you for this lol
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Sep 17 2021 05:23pm
>iF it WeRnT for UnvAXed People tHiS WouldNt be HaPpeninG

Meanwhile in reality:

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A new study from Israel suggests the risk of a breakthrough infection among vaccinated people was higher than among people who’d recovered from COVID-19 but had not been vaccinated.

The researchers found that people who had never been infected and were vaccinated in January and February were 6-13 times more likely to become infected during June – August (when the Delta variant was the dominant strain circulating in Israel) than unvaccinated people who had recovered from SARS-CoV-2. They also compared two groups of 14,000 unvaccinated people who had recovered from SARS-CoV-2 with a similarly sized group of people who had previously been infected and had received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The team found that the previously infected but unvaccinated group was twice as likely to be reinfected as those who had been previously infected and received one dose of vaccine.


https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/people-who-have-already-had-covid-19-could-be-less-likely-catch-delta-vaccinated

This has been posted and talked about but I'll just reiterate: we would have been better off if much of the healthy population was infected and developed a natural immune response, instead of shutting down and waiting for some savior vaccine.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 17 2021 05:24pm
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Sep 17 2021 05:31pm
when i got my vaccine my cell service started being alot morw reliable so i bought a new key of windows to show my preciate lole 😉
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Sep 17 2021 06:52pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 Sep 2021 01:23)
>iF it WeRnT for UnvAXed People tHiS WouldNt be HaPpeninG

Meanwhile in reality:
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/people-who-have-already-had-covid-19-could-be-less-likely-catch-delta-vaccinated

This has been posted and talked about but I'll just reiterate: we would have been better off if much of the healthy population was infected and developed a natural immune response, instead of shutting down and waiting for some savior vaccine.


I already discussed this study a week ago in another thread:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=85550297&f=119&p=573340580

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 10 Sep 2021 21:13)
So, tldr: natural immunity seems to be broader and more reliable than vaccine-induced immunity, but like the vaccines, the natural immunity does wane over time and the gold standard seems to be a combination of vaccination and infection.

That's really the most important takeaway from the artcile: even those who enjoy natural immunity conferred by a previous infection can cut their risk of reinfection roughly in half by a single dose of the mRNA vaccines.



Regarding the bolded: the problem with acquiring natural immunity is that you cannot do it quick enough without infection numbers so skyhigh that keeping the elderly/less healthy protected becomes nearly impossible.

To ""safely"" build up naturally immunity in relevant quantities without a vaccine, we would have had to send the elderly and those with preexisting conditions into uber-strict lockdown for 3 months during the summer of 2020 while the young and healthy try to get infected as much and as quickly as they can, followed by another 3 weeks or so of total lockdown for everyone to cool infection levels down before the unprotected risk groups can go out again.

Doing that during winter would be far too risky; doing it during the summer of 2020 was too early. We didn't know with sufficient certainty yet how frequent the young and healthy require hospitalization or develop long covid. By the spring of 2021, we already had vaccines, so just getting jabbed was the less disruptive way of dealing with the virus than this approach. Also, it would have required huge amounts of coordination and compliance across society and thus been destined to fail anyway.
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Sep 17 2021 06:56pm
Nikki Minaj said it makes men infertile smh
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Sep 17 2021 06:59pm
Quote (iWorshiptheBlahaj @ Sep 17 2021 04:31pm)
when i got my vaccine my cell service started being alot morw reliable so i bought a new key of windows to show my preciate lole 😉


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