Nobody claimed they were trying to take over all of Ukraine on their own - but they were definitely trying to push the border forward and gain more territory.



If Putin's goal had only been to ensure freedom and independence for Donbass, why didn't he just send his troops to the line of demarcation to signal to the oh-so-bloodthirsty Ukrainians that any attempts at engaging in further "terror attacks" against the Donbass would be futile and met with force? Why did he instead order his troops to seize the land between Mykolaiv and Mariupol as well as try to encircle and besiege Kyiv and Kharkiv? Neither of these steps were necessary or suited for the goal of defending the Donbass.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 25 2022 07:49pm

to upend the regime which did not accept the declarations of independence & allowed the 8 years of terror attacks on Donbass

This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Apr 25 2022 08:02pm

I think 14k dead total over 8 years is pretty small in the grand scheme of things but I guess that's just a matter of how much death you're willing to tolerate (we had roughly half of that die to gang violence in Chicago in a similar time frame). Your position has historically been that the weaker side should give up so why didn't those separatist regions give up? In almost all circumstances, rebellions deserve to be crushed.

The funny thing with India / China
No bombs dropped, No bullets fired

Good old Kung Fu fighting Ip Man style.

the zero-to-minimal western attention THEN, compared to mass-hysteria NOW - should be telling a whole lot about who was on the offensive

This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Apr 25 2022 08:08pm

Streets of UPA heroes

https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8F_%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%97%D0%B2_%D0%A3%D0%9F%D0%90

UPA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

Stepan Bandera Avenue

https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82_%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8_(%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%97%D0%B2)

Stepan Bandera
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

If there are no nazis in Ukraine then who's naming streets to honor them? I demand a Bandera statue in Warsaw to seal our bloody friendship.

They probably would have given up if mother Russia to the east wasn't pulling the strings and a bunch of insurrectionists would of been jailed or killed without any western media giving a fuck. I disagree though, 14k isn't a small number, and besides that region was basically a no mans land. You're in a conflict with Ukraine, the world wont recognize you and there are a million sanctions placed so there's no prospect for trade or travel. It's a pretty crap existence, look at Transnistria or Kashmir for example what it means to be a region that no recognizes. Poverty and being left in the past by the world to die a slow death.

Russia possibly at it again with another false flag to create a pretext for “peace keeping” or another “special military operation,” this time Moldova.
In a statement, Moldova's Bureau of Reintegration Policies expressed "concern" about an incident at the separatist's region of Transnistria, citing reports that "unidentified people fired shots from grenade launchers at the headquarters of the so-called security structures in the region." The statement urged calm, arguing that the "objective of the incident" is to "create pretexts of tensioning the security situation in the Transnistrian region."
This comes after Russian Major General Rustam Minnekayev, asserted that Moscow intends to take over southern Ukraine, including the port city of Odesa, which would allow it "another way out to Transnistria." Russia currently has around 1,500 soldiers stationed in the territory. Further, the maj gen said that there “…have been cases of oppression of the Russian-speaking population,” in Transnistria of Moldova.

This post was edited by IchBinDaddy on Apr 25 2022 10:25pm

The sims are very very dangerous.

Why do you call yourself Ukrainian if you live in Moscow and support Russians in the war?