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Sep 16 2019 03:46pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 11 2019 10:50am)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-stand-183124782.html

2016 flashes of Bernie. "You know if Yang (Bernie) just dropped out, because he can't win, it would really make Bernie/Warren's (HRC's) chances better.


They should all drop out to make each other's chances better
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Sep 24 2019 10:38am
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/tulsi-gabbard-qualifies-for-october-primary-debate-1509412

Perpetual complainer and Tucker Carlson regular will make the debate stage in October.
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Sep 24 2019 10:41pm
Quote (IceMage @ 24 Sep 2019 12:38)
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/tulsi-gabbard-qualifies-for-october-primary-debate-1509412

Perpetual complainer and Tucker Carlson regular will make the debate stage in October.




icepeon only worships and votes for (D) candidates that remind him of himself - pale pasty privileged lefties who deny math and elections

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Sep 25 2019 03:21pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 11 2019 10:16am)
https://medium.com/@teamwarren/a-fair-and-welcoming-immigration-system-8fff69cd674e

Elizabeth Warren published her immigration plan
In her own words:

  • Decriminalize migration and refocus enforcement on serious criminal activity.
  • Separate law enforcement from immigration enforcement to strengthen our communities.
  • Remake CBP and ICE in a way that reflects our values.
  • Create accountability for the abuse perpetrated during the Trump Era.
  • End unnecessary detention.
  • Eliminate private detention facilities.
  • Expand the executive use of parole and invest in alternatives-to-detention.
  • Establish professional, independent Article I immigration courts.
  • Eliminate expedited removal and provide due process.
  • Reject exclusionary policies based on race, religion and nationality.
  • Raise the refugee cap.
  • Affirm asylum protections.
  • Expand legal immigration.
  • Make it easier for those eligible for citizenship to naturalize.
  • Reduce the family reunification backlog.
  • Repeal the 3- and 10-year bars.
  • Provide a fair and achievable pathway to citizenship.
  • Limit the penalties considered for status determinations.
  • Create an Office of New Americans.
  • Restore and increase aid.
  • Step up efforts to address transnational crime.
  • Inform and protect those seeking refuge.


Translated thats:

  • Decriminalize illegal border crossings both forwards and retroactively
  • End all border enforcement and detention for anything short of violent criminals
  • Provide amnesty and citizenship to illegal aliens in the country now and in the future
  • Provide free healthcare and social services to illegal aliens in the US as well massive aid to their home countries
  • Greatly expand the flow of immigration into the US both through legal and illegal channels
  • Persecute and lock up current law enforcement and officials


See, I at least tell myself I've got a neutral bone or two and am willing to hear out both sides and I'd strongly consider voting Klobuchar or Hickenlooper in 2020. But if Warren gets the nomination I won't just be a hard no after this, I'll actually get up and start donating to a Trump and maybe do some volunteering or something. Never donated to anyone since Wellstone.


Why should undocumented immigrants be prevented from healthcare access when a significant % of undocumented immigrants pay taxes, including federal income taxes?
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Sep 25 2019 04:08pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 11 2019 01:16pm)
https://medium.com/@teamwarren/a-fair-and-welcoming-immigration-system-8fff69cd674e

Elizabeth Warren published her immigration plan
In her own words:

  • Decriminalize migration and refocus enforcement on serious criminal activity.
  • Separate law enforcement from immigration enforcement to strengthen our communities.
  • Remake CBP and ICE in a way that reflects our values.
  • Create accountability for the abuse perpetrated during the Trump Era.
  • End unnecessary detention.
  • Eliminate private detention facilities.
  • Expand the executive use of parole and invest in alternatives-to-detention.
  • Establish professional, independent Article I immigration courts.
  • Eliminate expedited removal and provide due process.
  • Reject exclusionary policies based on race, religion and nationality.
  • Raise the refugee cap.
  • Affirm asylum protections.
  • Expand legal immigration.
  • Make it easier for those eligible for citizenship to naturalize.
  • Reduce the family reunification backlog.
  • Repeal the 3- and 10-year bars.
  • Provide a fair and achievable pathway to citizenship.
  • Limit the penalties considered for status determinations.
  • Create an Office of New Americans.
  • Restore and increase aid.
  • Step up efforts to address transnational crime.
  • Inform and protect those seeking refuge.


Translated thats:

  • Decriminalize illegal border crossings both forwards and retroactively
  • End all border enforcement and detention for anything short of violent criminals
  • Provide amnesty and citizenship to illegal aliens in the country now and in the future
  • Provide free healthcare and social services to illegal aliens in the US as well massive aid to their home countries
  • Greatly expand the flow of immigration into the US both through legal and illegal channels
  • Persecute and lock up current law enforcement and officials


See, I at least tell myself I've got a neutral bone or two and am willing to hear out both sides and I'd strongly consider voting Klobuchar or Hickenlooper in 2020. But if Warren gets the nomination I won't just be a hard no after this, I'll actually get up and start donating to a Trump and maybe do some volunteering or something. Never donated to anyone since Wellstone.


You want to fix immigration, this is a plan.

This is not a bad plan at all.

Immigration should be fixed. Trump has been in for years now and has offered no solutions.

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 25 2019 04:09pm
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Sep 25 2019 04:38pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 25 Sep 2019 17:21)
Why should undocumented immigrants be prevented from healthcare access when a significant % of undocumented immigrants pay taxes, including federal income taxes?


Quote (Skinned @ 25 Sep 2019 18:08)
You want to fix immigration, this is a plan.

This is not a bad plan at all.

Immigration should be fixed. Trump has been in for years now and has offered no solutions.

"we don't care about people who immigrate/have immigrated here legally" -(D) frontrunner's immigration policy
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Sep 25 2019 05:53pm
Quote (excellence @ Sep 25 2019 03:38pm)
"we don't care about people who immigrate/have immigrated here legally" -(D) frontrunner's immigration policy


But Republicans want to tax undocumented immigrants only to then both deny them services, but use that tax revenue to help themselves! The absolute horror of it all.
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Sep 25 2019 07:21pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 25 Sep 2019 19:53)
But Republicans want to tax undocumented immigrants only to then both deny them services, but use that tax revenue to help themselves! The absolute horror of it all.

yeah when i think of excessive taxation an idiot republican is the first thing that comes to mind

This post was edited by excellence on Sep 25 2019 07:21pm
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Sep 25 2019 07:24pm
Quote (excellence @ Sep 25 2019 06:21pm)
yeah when i think of excessive taxation an idiot republican is the first thing that comes to mind


You're so #Woke.
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Sep 25 2019 07:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 11 2019 01:16pm)
"Decriminalize migration and refocus enforcement on serious criminal activity."


:rofl:

Shes so naive its a fucking joke

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Sep 25 2019 07:40pm
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