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Apr 25 2022 02:06pm
Quote (Ironfister @ 25 Apr 2022 14:59)
mr Deutscher, are you aware that when Russians capture someone, they torture him and make him say anything they want?
One says anything, only for the pain to stop.
And they sure do have experience in doing that :( They can keep a man alive while torturing him for a week.


This idiot doesn’t speak a single word of any other language. He wouldn’t know the difference between Russkie and Polskie.
He hasn’t even left his den in ages.
He keeps making claims without any proof.
I want to see at least one of the videos he claims is real.

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Apr 25 2022 02:09pm
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10% of polish people have taken an Ukraine refugee family inside their own house. Do you think anyone would do it, if nazi were any problem in Ukraine?
War is bad, you cant play nicely in the war, if somebody wants to kill you and your family and plays dirty himself.
You say about tarnishing, but what west people do? Why for the sake of world freedom, democracy and solidarity dont we simply secretly say: "ok mr Putin, NATO will be now entering Ukraine for peacekeeping mission, your troops have 48h to safely retreat to Russia". Mr Zelensky could give a speech that he will strong penalize all nazism (its not a problem for him since there isnt any) and this way give Putin an excuse to declare himself winner in Russia TV.
So currently NATO is tarnishing also. This is life, nothing and nobody is perfect, ok? We need to live with it, but its not a reason to give up to nazism or russism or any other villains.


The two don't really have much to do with each other. Do I think women and kids that flee the war are Nazis? Lol no.

I'm going to ask you a very simple question though, do you agree that at least some members of the Azov Battalion are neo Nazis? If not, do you think US, European, Jewish groups pointing to them as being neo-Nazis is some conspiracy theory or what exactly?


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Apr 25 2022 02:12pm
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The two don't really have much to do with each other. Do I think women and kids that flee the war are Nazis? Lol no.

I'm going to ask you a very simple question though, do you agree that at least some members of the Azov Battalion are neo Nazis? If not, do you think US, European, Jewish groups pointing to them as being neo-Nazis is some conspiracy theory or what exactly?


Who exactly is denying this? Does it really matter?
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Apr 25 2022 02:19pm
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 25 2022 01:59pm)
mr Deutscher, are you aware that when Russians capture someone, they torture him and make him say anything they want?
One says anything, only for the pain to stop.
And they sure do have experience in doing that :( They can keep a man alive while torturing him for a week.


What you just described is what Ukrainians are doing to Russian PoW's, yes.

However, Russia does not torture theirs and this is a verified fact after the interviews of hundreds of prisoners and there being absolutely zero evidence coming out within the past 45 days of Russia torturing Ukrainian PoW's.

Meanwhile Ukrainians film themselves shooting PoW's in the knees and calling for castrating them, etc.

One (Ukraine) acts like hate-filled barbarians that take out their pitiful rage on unarmed soldiers because they know they can't win the war, while the other treats their PoW's - even the Nazi warcriminals - with dignity.

The worst thing that will happen to a Ukrainian PoW is that they might be prosecuted and jailed for warcrimes depending on if they killed civilians or not.

The level of propaganda you subscribe to is hilarious. It can only come straight outta reddit or CNN or whatever garbage the Eurolemmings are blasted with on a daily basis...
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Quote (thundercock @ Apr 25 2022 04:12pm)
Who exactly is denying this? Does it really matter?


How does it not matter when the President of fucking Ukraine is bringing one of these dweebs to address the Greek lawmakers? Like after how many of these examples of public lionization of actual people tied to Nazis do we take a step and say "wait dawg, this isn't cool, this isn't what we stand for"

I posted a video from a pro-Ukraine protest in Manhattan that happened recently, here it is again. The crowd is literally chanting Azov and you can clearly see a right sector black and red flag (also a known neo nazi group in Ukraine)

https://twitter.com/elaadeliahu/status/1517948443922255873

Like I would understand if the allegations that these groups are Nazis spawned recently so people don't know much about them but there's literally years of coverage with hundreds of reputable articles pointing to who these people are. If you want to paint this conflict as being black and white it helps to not have Nazis in your ranks, that's why Zelensky is a huge idiot for not denouncing them.

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Apr 25 2022 02:32pm
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How does it not matter when the President of fucking Ukraine is bringing one of these dweebs to address the Greek lawmakers? Like after how many of these examples of public lionization of actual people tied to Nazis do we take a step and say "wait dawg, this isn't cool, this isn't what we stand for"

I posted a video from a pro-Ukraine protest in Manhattan that happened recently, here it is again. The crowd is literally chanting Azov and you can clearly see a right sector black and red flag (also a known neo nazi group in Ukraine)

https://twitter.com/elaadeliahu/status/1517948443922255873

Like I would understand if the allegations that these groups are Nazis spawned recently so people don't know much about them but there's literally years of coverage with hundreds of reputable articles pointing to who these people are. If you want to paint this conflict as being black and white it helps to not have Nazis in your ranks, that's why Zelensky is huge idiot for not denouncing them.


We often have to support horrible people/institutions for the greater good. What do you think would have happened if the US didn't help the USSR during WW2 via Lend-Lease? This isn't a new concept...
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Apr 25 2022 03:12pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 25 Apr 2022 22:25)
How does it not matter when the President of fucking Ukraine is bringing one of these dweebs to address the Greek lawmakers? Like after how many of these examples of public lionization of actual people tied to Nazis do we take a step and say "wait dawg, this isn't cool, this isn't what we stand for"

I posted a video from a pro-Ukraine protest in Manhattan that happened recently, here it is again. The crowd is literally chanting Azov and you can clearly see a right sector black and red flag (also a known neo nazi group in Ukraine)

https://twitter.com/elaadeliahu/status/1517948443922255873

Like I would understand if the allegations that these groups are Nazis spawned recently so people don't know much about them but there's literally years of coverage with hundreds of reputable articles pointing to who these people are. If you want to paint this conflict as being black and white it helps to not have Nazis in your ranks, that's why Zelensky is a huge idiot for not denouncing them.


Do you seriously think Zelensky is in a position where he can be picky with his allies and soldiers? Any man or woman who's willing and able to fight for Ukraine against Russia is welcome to do so, no matter their political or ideological inclination. Do you expect a desperate wartime president to denounce his own troops to score purity or decency points with foreign voyeurs like us?

Take the Asov Battalion, for instance: they did a great job dragging out the fighting in Mariupol, tied up and wore out Russian forces there. Their ultranationalism prompted them to fight and ultimately sacrifice their lives for their country and bought the regular Ukrainian army valuable time. They might have been nazis and I'm not gonna shed a tear for them, but there's no denying that they've been useful idiots for Ukraine's cause. "Thanks for your services and good riddance."

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Do you seriously think Zelensky is in a position where he can be picky with his allies and soldiers? Any man or woman who's willing and able to fight for Ukraine against Russia is welcome to do so, no matter their political or ideological inclination. Do you expect a desperate wartime president to denounce his own troops to score purity points with foreign voyeurs?

Take the Asov Battalion, for instance: they did a great job dragging out the fighting in Mariupol, tied up and wore out Russian forces there. Their ultranationalism prompted them to fight and ultimately sacrifice their lives for their country and bought the regular Ukrainian army valuable time.
They might have been nazis and I'm not gonna shed a tear for them, but there's no denying that they've been useful idiots for Ukraine's cause. "Thanks for your services and good riddance."


HAHAHAHAHHA here's more westerners justifying their support for brutal, violent, murderous neo-nazi's who have spent the past 8 years killing their own nation's citizens because they hate Russia more than actual nazi's AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

You're a fucking caricature of yourself dude
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Apr 25 2022 03:17pm
Good documentary featuring Bellingcat on how Navalny was poisoned: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0016txs
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 25 Apr 2022 23:13)
HAHAHAHAHHA here's more westerners justifying their support for brutal, violent, murderous neo-nazi's who have spent the past 8 years killing their own nation's citizens because they hate Russia more than actual nazi's AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

You're a fucking caricature of yourself dude


Mariupol under the rule of the "brutal, violent, murderous neo-nazis" vs Mariupol after being "liberated" by the heroic Russian "special military operation":

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