Quote (HeLiCaL @ 25 Apr 2022 20:59)
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labs were real, ukraine nazi problem is so bad their official government twitter accounts proudly post dehumanising rhetoric:
https://i.imgur.com/ykbpa6Y.jpgDude these Russian people attacked innocent people, they do genocide on Ukrainian people or when they catch them: enslave them and send to work camp in some freezing areas.
Thus calling Russian soldiers orcs is justified.
I wonder if somebody wants to kill you, would you call him nicely?
Remember it was Russia who attacked first in 2014, and again attacked in 2022.
Quote (ofthevoid @ 25 Apr 2022 21:23)
The reason was blown out of proportions but not fake. It's like in law enforcement, an officer can match force. But if an officer pulls out a gun when a guy is just resisting arrest pushing the cop off him, then the cop can't simply reach for the gun and off him. That's what Russia did in this conflict, they whipped out the AK and raised the ante.
But I disagree, you can't just overlook alliances with bad people for convenience. It tarnishes the cause.
10% of polish people have taken an Ukraine refugee family inside their own house. Do you think anyone would do it, if nazi were any problem in Ukraine?
War is bad, you cant play nicely in the war, if somebody wants to kill you and your family and plays dirty himself.
You say about tarnishing, but what west people do? Why for the sake of world freedom, democracy and solidarity dont we simply secretly say: "ok mr Putin, NATO will be now entering Ukraine for peacekeeping mission, your troops have 48h to safely retreat to Russia". Mr Zelensky could give a speech that he will strong penalize all nazism (its not a problem for him since there isnt any) and this way give Putin an excuse to declare himself winner in Russia TV.
So currently NATO is tarnishing also. This is life, nothing and nobody is perfect, ok? We need to live with it, but its not a reason to give up to nazism or russism or any other villains.