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Sep 9 2021 02:43pm
Darwin is back and he's not happy. Congrats to Biden.

Quote (JessiWan @ 9 Sep 2021 20:38)
If someone is "asymptomatic", that means, by definition, he is not sick. You seem to think if there are Covid viruses inside a person, that means he is sick. Not true.


Depends of people, depends of virus, depends of spreading conditions.

Worst example: A guy in subway at pike hours, he's contaminated, has a load of virus in his breath but not enough to realize it's covid, or to start to be really worried... He will contaminate people on his way back to home, in the evening.
Some of them are pushing it up a bit and wait the last moments. Sad. This is not binary.


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Sep 9 2021 02:48pm
my daughter got covid at school. Cool.

She looks like hell.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 9 2021 11:17am)
You are just dodging.Alot of available covid vaccines are not mRna, you are hidding behind words since you are wrong on absolutely everything else, like the other poster who only have insults left.
Despicable, you lose.


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Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 13:19)
the only people who can spread a disease are those sick with that disease, asymptomatic or otherwise.


False, according to the WHO and CDC. Asymptomatic spread means you do not have the "disease". You carry the virus. So, according to the CDC, and the WHO, you can spread the virus. Done. Full stop. That's what "asymptomatic" means. To have the "disease" aka Covid, means that you are exhibiting the symptoms of that "disease". Where to be a "carrier" all you have to have is the SARS-CoV-2 virus in your body. Meaning, no symptoms, no disease. Now, once again, and I stress, for my entire lifetime, accepted medical science regarding flu and coronaviruses both was that you would not spread these viruses without contracting their associated diseases, which would make what you said true. However, in the specific case of SARS-CoV-2, the CDC and WHO have stated it can be spread WITHOUT the disease present. If that is true, IF that is true, then that means vaccines and natural immunity are BOTH ineffective to stop the spread, or even impact the spread in any meaningful way.

Once again, these are two of the foremost authorities on communicable diseases on the planet. If you are going to challenge their information, I would like some very detailed information on how. So, once again, Sauci is anti-science. As are you. According to the CDC and WHO.

Quote (thundercock @ 9 Sep 2021 13:19)
The interpretation of the commerce clause is far reaching. Like it or not, SCOTUS's interpretation has more weight than yours.


SCOTUS's interpretation of the Commerce Clause agrees with mine. It impacts INTERstate commerce, not INTRAstate commers, and it's a power given only to Congress. Making all Executive mandates unconstitutional. The Executive does not have the authority.

Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 13:21)
even biden's federal worker move doesnt apply. it would be like saying a rule on the air conditioning levels in US embassies is trying to regulate foreign countries.


You must have missed the mandate regarding Hospital workers. These are not federal employees crossing state lines. Regardless, this is a power of Congress, NOT the executive.

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LOL.

Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 13:24)
o wow.

my company has like 110 employees, ill start saving 11 people boxes to pack their things.


Good. They deserve it. When the Fascists say jump, start jumping. :)
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Quote (TiStuff @ 9 Sep 2021 20:55)
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slow it down on memes, and less partisanship please


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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 9 2021 01:43pm)
Darwin is back and he's not happy. Congrats to Biden.



Depends of people, depends of virus, depends of spreading conditions.

Worst example: A guy in subway at pike hours, he's contaminated, has a load of virus in his breath but not enough to realize it's covid, or to start to be really worried... He will contaminate people on his way back to home, in the evening.
Some of them are pushing it up a bit and wait the last moments. Sad. This is not binary.

But I never said they couldn't spread it. Its like other people have pointed out, you can spread covid, as long as you have covid viruses in you. However, just because you have covid viruses in you and you can spread covid, it does not necessarily mean you have covid/covid symptoms.

It's like Bobb said, you can be a carrier for covid. You don't need to be a full-blown covid patient to spread. All you have to do is be a carrier. And the guy in your example is a carrier. Not a covid patient.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 9 Sep 2021 21:09)
But I never said they couldn't spread it. Its like other people have pointed out, you can spread covid, as long as you have covid viruses in you. However, just because you have covid viruses in you and you can spread covid, it does not necessarily mean you have covid/covid symptoms.

It's like Bobb said, you can be a carrier for covid. You don't need to be a full-blown covid patient to spread. All you have to do is be a carrier. And the guy in your example is a carrier. Not a covid patient.


You become a covid patient when you have symptoms, even big ones, else you are simply ordered to stay at home, forced to watch Trudean dancing.
Also you can be "just a carrier" for a while and fall sick because the immune system cannot handle it anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_load
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 9 2021 02:20pm)
You become a covid patient when you have symptoms,


True. But I am not sure what you are getting at. You have refuted nothing I said.

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Also you can be "just a carrier" for a while and fall sick because the immune system cannot handle it anymore.


True, but until a carrier succumbs, he is still just a carrier, not a covid patient. And my point still stands, one does not need to be a full-blown patient to spread covid. All he has to do is be a carrier.
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Sep 9 2021 03:50pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 9 2021 01:58pm)


SCOTUS's interpretation of the Commerce Clause agrees with mine. It impacts INTERstate commerce, not INTRAstate commers, and it's a power given only to Congress. Making all Executive mandates unconstitutional. The Executive does not have the authority.


I think you need to read up on what constitutes "interstate commerce" then. Read Wickard v. Filburn but make sure you wear a diaper b/c you're literally going to shit your pants.
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Sep 9 2021 03:57pm
For the resident PaRDians who are unvaccinated: What are some of the ways your quality of life has been negatively affected due to proof-of-vaccination requirements that may or may not exist in your local area?

Genuinely curious.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Sep 9 2021 03:57pm
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