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May 29 2020 10:02am
Also Walz just gave a speech and said absolutely nothing of value, still refusing to commit to either iron fist on the mob or appeasing them. All he really did was apologize to CNN.
And then guess who he brought out to give the followup speech? This guy:



Quote (hunter_1 @ May 29 2020 11:02am)
Is it really unknown tho?


Yes.

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May 29 2020 10:04am
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Purple haired turds like this one are a real win for society.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/28/twitch-safety-advisory-council-member-ferociously-steph-encourages-looting-solidarity-for-those-resisting/

FerociouslySteph, Twitch Trust and Safety Counsel's trans who identifies as a deer has stepped into the spotlights once again, encouraging the looting in Minneapolis in statements made on twitter.


She didn't actually say what you are saying she said in her post. I see nothing wrong with the post. People shouldnt just shut up go home and be good boot lickers.
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May 29 2020 10:06am
Quote (Kayeto @ May 29 2020 09:00am)
If he had been arrested prematurely (to stop the riots) then got off on a technicality (because the government used common sense instead of rigidly adhering to the current law) then the outcome would be even worse.

The rioters would then accuse the government of throwing the case so that the guy walked free. And those rioters would have a good point because every lawyer in the world would be saying how bad of an idea it was for him to be arrested so quickly.


That's not entirely truthful though, is it? There's plenty of video evidence showing that at a bare minimum an attempted murder charge could hold up. So the 36 hour timeframe wouldn't be a concern, nor would the 14 day timeframe for where a motion to dismiss would arise. And the likelihood of a Judge granting a speedy trial request in a case involving a highly politicized murder that was streamed on facebook live? The stretch required for that is so immense, it's simply not realistic. The arrest would have given enough time to allow the public to receive ALL the evidence, for the ME to get out the autopsy results, and a chance for the people of Minneapolis to consider whether or not it was worth burning their own city down over.

IF that evidence came out and they then determined that they were not going to pursue a case? We'd likely have exactly what's happening now. I'm not sure how much worse you think it'd get.

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If we're going to throw due process out the window and forget about civil rights and proper trials, we could just lynch whoever the mob doesn't like, all it takes is a length of rope.
If we want to actually have law and order, a video of Floyd being arrested and dying after an unknown medical event is not enough to support prosecution on its own, and absolutely requires a medical examiner's report.


It's not a violation of due process to arrest a person when they commit a crime. WTF are you talking about?

When you knowingly continue to restrict bloodflow from the brain after a person has lost consciousness, that's attempted murder. Attempted murder is a crime. Arresting the officer would fall well within due process.

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That's not entirely truthful though, is it? There's plenty of video evidence showing that at a bare minimum an attempted murder charge could hold up. So the 36 hour timeframe wouldn't be a concern, nor would the 14 day timeframe for where a motion to dismiss would arise. And the likelihood of a Judge granting a speedy trial request in a case involving a highly politicized murder that was streamed on facebook live? The stretch required for that is so immense, it's simply not realistic. The arrest would have given enough time to allow the public to receive ALL the evidence, for the ME to get out the autopsy results, and a chance for the people of Minneapolis to consider whether or not it was worth burning their own city down over.


You're assuming that the wheels of justice would turn as intended. If the defendant was you or I, then that would probably be a fair assumption. But in this particular case, the MNPB are not being cooperative. They are trying to make the DA's job even harder. That puts a snag in the system because, by design, the cops are part of the system.

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May 29 2020 10:17am
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She didn't actually say what you are saying she said in her post. I see nothing wrong with the post. People shouldnt just shut up go home and be good boot lickers.

He’s encouraging people to wear masks in case facial recognition technology identifies them committing crimes.

If he’s not encouraging it, he’s saying if you’re going to do, don’t get caught. MLK would be proud. Then again he’s a dude who claims to identify as a girl / deer, & complains about video games, so, not sure why anyone cares what he says.
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Quote (Kayeto @ May 29 2020 09:10am)
You're assuming that the wheels of justice would as intended. If the defendant was you or I, then that would probably be a fair assumption. But in this particular case, the MNPB are not being cooperative. They are trying to make the DA's job even harder. That puts a snag in the system because, by design, the cops are part of the system.


Cooperation from the local precinct is less important than you're giving it credit for. The streaming of the event via Facebook Live turned the matter into a federal concern. If the department fails to cooperate, the FBI simply takes over the case, and the FBI invariably ends up investigating the entire department, just as happened with Baltimore.

I get the portion of the picture you're focusing on, but I gotta be honest, you're not really giving the system the chance to do it's job any more than the Rioters are.
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May 29 2020 10:21am
The city government issued a statement on Thursday via its website with the mayor’s request.

“The City encourages everyone to exercise caution to stay safe while participating in demonstrations, including wearing masks and physical distancing as much as possible to prevent the spread of COVID-19,” the statement reads. “The City has made hundreds of masks available to protesters this week.”

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/news/WCMSP-224710

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The streaming of the event via Facebook Live turned the matter into a federal concern. If the department fails to cooperate, the FBI simply takes over the case, and the FBI invariably ends up investigating the entire department, just as happened with Baltimore.


I would totally support the idea of another department, such as the FBI, getting involved as a way to circumvent the red tape and get Chauvin in custody to quell the riots.

MN would not like it one bit and it would cause one hell of a legal battle. But this situation is so extreme that it warrants it (imo).

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Cooperation from the local precinct is less important than you're giving it credit for.


However important or unimportant you think it is, all it takes is one minor trip-up to cause a mistrial.

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May 29 2020 10:21am
I have just listened to 10 minutes straight of Governor Walz excusing himself by explaining how its everyone else's responsibility and not his
And he's still going this very second.
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 12:21pm)
I have just listened to 10 minutes straight of Governor Walz excusing himself by explaining how its everyone else's responsibility and not his
And he's still going this very second.


My wife just told me the media is ripping him a new one. Is this true?
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