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Apr 24 2022 11:47pm
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 25 2022 12:44am)
Well, we will see about that. Ukraine had some succeses already, and Russians attacking army is already nearly halved.
Russia is a bigger country, but their morale is low, while defenders are fighting for their lifes and their families. Russia cannot simply put their full potential into attacking war, as they did when defending from Hitler. While Ukraine can and does.
Western countries didnt stop trading with Ukraine because the war, so they keep some options to continues buying weapons and supplies and intelligence info in the west. And they have a huge discount or deffered payments for sure :)
There are many good people in the liberal world, including myself, that support Ukraine in many ways. Good, liberal people need to stick together.


If Russia keeps going, they will win. Period. Unfortunately it's that simple. Russia can lose 100x the resources of Ukraine and still win, and that's just overwhelming.

Hopefully Putin gets a forced retirement soon and they stop though. That's probably the best outcome for everybody.
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Apr 24 2022 11:52pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 24 2022 10:47pm)
If Russia keeps going, they will win. Period. Unfortunately it's that simple. Russia can lose 100x the resources of Ukraine and still win, and that's just overwhelming.

Hopefully Putin gets a forced retirement soon and they stop though. That's probably the best outcome for everybody.


On paper that may be the case but they've been shockingly incompetent. They can't keep going with the status quo because they can't keep up with the West. Russia needs to have a draft, train and equip them, and then attack with overwhelming force.
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Apr 25 2022 12:11am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 25 Apr 2022 07:47)
If Russia keeps going, they will win. Period. Unfortunately it's that simple. Russia can lose 100x the resources of Ukraine and still win, and that's just overwhelming.
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Russia attacked Ukraine with only 170k soldiers because they couldnt gather more. Dont overestimate them.

Quote (Norlander @ 25 Apr 2022 07:46)
As a Ukrainian I demand a Stepan Bandera statue in Warsaw to show a true support of my people.


I dont really know you, but have a feeling that you are now more Russian than Ukrainian.
Didnt you have moscow location in your profile some time ago?
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Apr 25 2022 02:54am
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 25 2022 07:11am)
Russia attacked Ukraine with only 170k soldiers because they couldnt gather more. Dont overestimate them.



I dont really know you, but have a feeling that you are now more Russian than Ukrainian.
Didnt you have moscow location in your profile some time ago?


Remember now, Russians are not evil. individuals are evil. Norlander is a moderate to my mind, or has been throughout this thread. Your quite late to the party so feel free to read through the topic.

Quote (Norlander @ Apr 25 2022 06:29am)
Manu, my boy. See what I've got in Auchan.

https://i.imgur.com/auWCHQq.jpg

Not going to wear it, you all know why. Just in case you support Auchan and Leroy Merlin, you gotta admit that they are making money while you are going to politics head over heels.


this image is very ehmmm, rage inducing, for some people, i would think. i would go so far as saying its in bad taste, therefore i am not surprised by Ironfister's questions. in the round we all say things that are taken up wrong, especially here, and this looks to be one such example. it could certainly spark wide debate anyway. not sure if walking down the street in poland with a tshirt like that is safe.

wait, that tshirt is sold by a french retailer ? is there context ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 25 2022 03:02am
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Quote (Norlander @ 25 Apr 2022 05:29)
Manu, my boy. See what I've got in Auchan.

https://i.imgur.com/auWCHQq.jpg

Not going to wear it, you all know why. Just in case you support Auchan and Leroy Merlin, you gotta admit that they are making money while you are going to politics head over heels.


It was a custormer offer or something ? Great for trolling, but not in Russia.

Take your picture on the shelves of the store

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 25 Apr 2022 01:37)
I don't see anybody seriously saying Ukraine has a chance. Russia will win if they keep going. They are just much larger and more powerful.

However, Russia will take a big hit militarily from Ukraine's resistance, and the economic sanctions. The game the whole time has been making it painful enough that Russia doesn't see victory as worth the price it has to pay.


Wrong

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 25 2022 03:49am
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Quote (ferdia @ 25 Apr 2022 10:54)
Remember now, Russians are not evil. individuals are evil. Norlander is a moderate to my mind, or has been throughout this thread. Your quite late to the party so feel free to read through the topic.


I know how it works.
Regimes use false propaganda, which can turn people into monsters. Its not really about nation, people arent evil when they are born, regardless of their race or nation, its their surrounding and propaganda that transforms them to become war criminal.
remember even in Germany many people have fallen under nazi propaganda 90 years ago. These were grandfathers of current peace loving, liberal germans.
Its the same white race of people, even same genes, same nations, yet very different.
So much changed. I still believe such a change is possible in Russia someday, it was close in the 90s, but before that we need to resist the evil Russia regime, and good people need to stick together.
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Apr 25 2022 04:59am
Quote (Ironfister @ 25 Apr 2022 18:21)
I know how it works.
All Governments and Superpowers use false propaganda, which can turn people into monsters. Its not really about nation, people arent evil when they are born, regardless of their race or nation, its their surrounding and propaganda that transforms them to become war criminal.
remember even in Germany many people have fallen under nazi propaganda 90 years ago. These were grandfathers of current peace loving, liberal germans.
Its the same white race of people, even same genes, same nations, yet very different.
So much changed. I still believe such a change is possible in Russia someday, it was close in the 90s, but before that we need to resist the evil Russia regime, and good people need to stick together.


Sorry have to edit a little bit.
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Quote (ferdia @ 25 Apr 2022 16:54)
Remember now, Russians are not evil. individuals are evil. Norlander is a moderate to my mind, or has been throughout this thread. Your quite late to the party so feel free to read through the topic.



this image is very ehmmm, rage inducing, for some people, i would think. i would go so far as saying its in bad taste, therefore i am not surprised by Ironfister's questions. in the round we all say things that are taken up wrong, especially here, and this looks to be one such example. it could certainly spark wide debate anyway. not sure if walking down the street in poland with a tshirt like that is safe.

wait, that tshirt is sold by a french retailer ? is there context ?


Hey mate take note of the developments in Solomon Island you will find it very interesting :lol:
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 25 Apr 2022 14:00)
Hey mate take note of the developments in Solomon Island you will find it very interesting :lol:


Someone will for sure have flashbacks of Vietnam. This world is going crazy.
I as a good moderate © Christian begin to think that we already met one Horseman of Apocalypse, Plague (Covid), now it's the 2nd (War), Hunger is yet to come. /joke

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 25 2022 05:20am
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34% of Americans can find Ukraine on the map.
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