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Sep 7 2021 05:06pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 7 2021 06:05pm)
Man oh man, they sure don't make it hard for people to come up with theories of what caused this virus. I remember when saying the virus was leaked from a lab was some sort of farfetched conspiracy theory and now:



https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/


At this point I doubt everything within the accepted news because big pharma planted the original trail of fake bread crumbs.

Who else could it be at this point but them?
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Sep 7 2021 10:52pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 7 2021 11:05pm)
Man oh man, they sure don't make it hard for people to come up with theories of what caused this virus. I remember when saying the virus was leaked from a lab was some sort of farfetched conspiracy theory and now:



https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/


People were getting banned from social media for even mentioning it.

But you wont get anything with what you posted, as tv obsessed fatfucks need a type of info that will say "virus did come from lab, confirmed". There is no critial thinking and theres complete dependance on what media tells them disregarding last 2 years of news contradicting itself constantly
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Sep 7 2021 10:54pm
Its not experimental


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Sep 7 2021 11:04pm
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Correct. Believe it or not but nearly 100% of our treatments and preventions are less than 20 years old. Very few medications last even 10 years without significant improvement being made. If we waited 50 years to see all the long-term side effects of every treatment or preventative measure we would literally be stuck in 1800's level medical technology.

There's a reason why we just don't care as much about long-term side effects though, and that's because they tend to be just less harmful than acute side effects by a massive factor, and a medication or vaccine only gets approved for use if it is treating a larger problem than the side effects it causes. So when you take the weight of risk versus reward, you end up with the risk of continued disease being 1, risk of side effects being something like a 0.005, and when you factor in long-term side effects it tends to only go up to like a 0.006.
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Correct. Believe it or not but nearly 100% of our treatments and preventions are less than 20 years old. Very few medications last even 10 years without significant improvement being made. If we waited 50 years to see all the long-term side effects of every treatment or preventative measure we would literally be stuck in 1800's level medical technology.

There's a reason why we just don't care as much about long-term side effects though, and that's because they tend to be just less harmful than acute side effects by a massive factor, and a medication or vaccine only gets approved for use if it is treating a larger problem than the side effects it causes. So when you take the weight of risk versus reward, you end up with the risk of continued disease being 1, risk of side effects being something like a 0.005, and when you factor in long-term side effects it tends to only go up to like a 0.006.


Wrong
Vincent racaniello literally said the opposite and virology is something hes doing for 40 years.
In his words, whatever happens long term we dont know. Whoever tells you that they know, is lying. We know how it works short term and how mrna affects covid, but there's nothing known for long term effects.
Note that hes a pro vaccine in order to fight covid, even though he claims we will never get rid of it now that its here. But hes also against pushing it on people as there is a big area of it we're unfamiliar with

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Sep 7 2021 11:16pm
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Wrong
Vincent racaniello literally said the opposite and virology is something hes doing for 40 years.
In his words, whatever happens long term we dont know. Whoever tells you that they know, is lying. We know how it works short term and how mrna affects covid, but there's nothing known for long term effects.
Note that hes a pro vaccine in order to fight covid, even though he claims we will never get rid of it now that its here. But hes also against pushing it on people as there is a big area of it we're unfamiliar with


You didn't contradict anything I said.
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You didn't contradict anything I said.


Saying long term risk is 0.006 is a bs as pro vaccine legit scientists, and not obese villagers from local labs, are legit saying theres no any data that indicates safety in long term.
But yeah, you proved numerous times how you refuse to even consider anything that's not narrative spread on tv, and how u were wrong more than right in last 2 years. I admire ur power of will though, as much as i find ur fear fun
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Sep 7 2021 11:28pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Sep 8 2021 12:23am)
Saying long term risk is 0.006 is a bs as pro vaccine legit scientists, and not obese villagers from local labs, are legit saying theres no any data that indicates safety in long term.
But yeah, you proved numerous times how you refuse to even consider anything that's not narrative spread on tv, and how u were wrong more than right in last 2 years. I admire ur power of will though, as much as i find ur fear fun


Except I didn't say that Covid vaccine long term risk is 0.006. I was giving an example of how this kind of thing is evaluated and explaining why not knowing every long term side effect doesn't make it "experimental".

Go back and read for comprehension instead of getting all triggered.
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Researcher have discovered an intricate hypothetical way how the RNA from the mRNA vaccines could, in extremely rare cases, affect and alter the genome, which in turn could, in extremely rare cases, cause dangerous long-term effects like cancer. We're talking about a "one out of tens of millions" scenario. This stuff is not something an ordinary person should worry about, even if this hypothetical is confirmed as an actual possibility.

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Sep 9 2021 04:57am
There have been 3449 Covid mutations worldwide between December 2019 & Sept 2021 (https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global)

Do you think one vaccine will protect you from all these variants? That's more than a dozen new strain every month. Just say no, the foundation is illogic

Testing for a disease when people have no symptoms is illogic.
Masking people that have no symptoms is illogical.
Tobacco and alcohol killed more people than covid during 2020.
Global population increased in 2020.

Illogical foundation. Just say no.


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