Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 23 Apr 2022 23:36)
There
In last 10 years, if you want
I read ;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_ChinaFreedom of speech
Freedom of the press
Freedom of the Internet
Hukou system => Sad
Freedom of association
Religious freedom
Organ harvesting
Political freedom
Independence movements (lol)
Political prisoners
Freedom of movement, Privacy (ahah)
Capital punishment
You know what ? it's gigantic, but i have 1 very honest question, not forgeting you are from honk-kong and not from some suburbs of a random city.
Which human right violation is the worst, in China, on your eyes ? Which one breaks the most your chinese heart ?
I am from Singapore and I work in Hong Kong.
First thing first I will discuss things that I am familiar with that I have direct contact with and I will answer you one by one.
I will not answer subjects which I am not familiar with.
1. Freedom of Speech , there is freedom of speech in Hong Kong and China. I come from a country called Singapore, if you look up of the freedom of speech index, my country is behind Russia and Belarus, just to let you know.
But the West have almost nothing bad to say about my country, maybe some progressive liberal media do, but when it comes to the government level may it be Europe of USA , absolutely love my country to bits if I may say.
You can talk about anything you want in Hong Kong. In China you can talk about everything you want, but if you touch on the core issue of the CCP government and your China Twitter is being viewed millions of times and if the government think that it is a seditious issue, well you will be invited for a cup of coffee.
In Singapore , the government will sue the crap out of you for defamation. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences.
2. Freedom of press , see above point 1.
3. Freedom of Internet , In Hong Kong Absolutely. In China ? Officially no. But everyone uses VPN and watches world wide news day in and out. It is similar to buying or eating chewing gum in Singapore which is officially ban, they don't really or purposely catch you using VPN unless your actions affect national security.
4. Hukou system, yes you are right it is a very sad issue.
5. Freedom of Association , not really. Thats why the West are setting up factories in China left right and center.
6. Religious freedom, absolutely as long as you do not interfere with the ruling party or create a cult or create some Christian Evangelistic movement like the USA " see Billy Graham, Creflo Dollar "
7. Organ Harvesting, I believed it happen in Tier 3 to 4 Cities back in the 90s and 2000s I do not have enough information on it , but I will not be surprised, there are some corrupted and inhuman officials at that time.
8. Political Freedom. No , why should they ?
9. Independence movement? ( Please elaborate)?
10. Political Prisoners , Absolutely Yes, like in Everywhere else in the World.
11. Freedom of movement , Yes. I go anywhere I want , hardly feel unsafe in Tier 1 or 2 cities, Foreigners have better protection more often than not.
12. Capital punishments? Yes, well I am from Singapore, I don't see a problem with that when it is being used on Murderers / Drug lords . We do death by hanging in Singapore, a law which used to be in the British Common law system, we just felt that it was necessary for high crimes.
And last but not least Xinjiang Uyghurs.
I have been there , the numbers are not in the millions , there abouts 150 to 200 thousand " extremist" were sent into camps. Most have been released.
And here is the funny thing, do you notice when the USA and Europe are harping on the problem in Xinjiang day in day out, 95% of the Muslim countries or majority of Muslim countries didn't make much of a noise?
Do you know why ?
This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 23 2022 10:00am