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Apr 23 2022 08:43am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 23 2022 09:37am)
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 23 2022 09:40am)
Russians do selfies in toilets because it's a sign of wealth.

35 million Russians live in houses or apartments without indoor toilets, 47 million do not have hot water, 29 million don’t have any running water inside their residences, and 22 million do not have central heating

https://ehorussia.com/new/node/17679


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Apr 23 2022 09:09am
Quote (dro94 @ 23 Apr 2022 22:29)
Do you not find it strangely coincidental how every country the UK colonised then became a functioning democracy with strong ties to the UK, with the exception being Hong Kong which was passed to the Chinese. When China cracked down on the two systems, one country deal they agreed to, the UK opened its doors to hundreds of thousands of Hong Kongers. The same thing happened following the partition of India where millions were taken in

With all due respect, India isn't underdeveloped because of colonisation, in fact there were significant trade benefits for both countries under British rule. We had to partition the country due to sectarian violence, the caste system puts even the British class system to shame in its abhorrence. The same hyperbole is often applied to the slave trade and colonisation of Africa, as if they'd be like the EU otherwise

Anyway, it's not about Boris Johnson, it's about long term strategic alliances. China will be India's biggest rival for decades to come, and Russia is a failing power with a weak economy, so really it's the West or nothing


I was there for 2014 Protest I marched
I was also there for the 2018 Protest which I marched too in Hong Kong.
This is something I know for sure NED was already interfering with the TWO system.
China don't really care how Hong Kong votes whatsoever before the 2018 protest.
For them to be so sensitive about the Tiananmen Square, HK was doing that Virgil every single year.
Until the HK protestors went all BLM on everything in HK.

That was when I stopped supporting those protestors. There was an old man that was annoyed with some of the protestors and argued with them, they poured petrol on him and tried to burn him alive.
When the British left, India's literacy rate was only 13%. You look at what happened to Ceylon.
The only Ex Colonies which did excellent was Singapore, then Malaysia in Asia. I won't put America in since they fought the British off.

And no, the West is declining and have been declining. And when I say the West I mostly meant USA, the politics is so divided it is not looking good.
Germany was doing exceptionally well until this whole Ukraine thing happened.

From our point of view in the East , USA is doing a last ditch attempt to remain dominant.
Military wise , it will be very hard to catch up with them, economically wise it is a sooner or later issue, sooner rather then later.

The identity politics have spread over to Europe from USA like some sort of plague. Mass refugees and migration from countless of wars that the West is involved in isn't doing too well in Europe.

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Apr 23 2022 09:17am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 23 Apr 2022 22:29)
Yes, do you think wikipedia articles are reliable on this subject ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China


So what exactly you want to ask me.
You want to talk about what happened after the CCP took over from Civil War the Human Rights abuse that happened or you want to talk about recent 10 years.

Because if you start talking about what happen a number of years back and counting up till now
And since you are French
I would start talking and asking you about stuff like these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Tr%E1%BA%A1ch_massacre

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Apr 23 2022 09:23am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 23 2022 03:09pm)
I was there for 2014 Protest I marched
I was also there for the 2018 Protest which I marched too in Hong Kong.
This is something I know for sure NED was already interfering with the TWO system.
China don't really care how Hong Kong votes whatsoever before the 2018 protest.
For them to be so sensitive about the Tiananmen Square, HK was doing that Virgil every single year.
Until the HK protestors went all BLM on everything in HK.

That was when I stopped supporting those protestors. There was an old man that was annoyed with some of the protestors and argued with them, they poured petrol on him and tried to burn him alive.
When the British left, India's literacy rate was only 13%. You look at what happened to Ceylon.
The only Ex Colonies which did excellent was Singapore, then Malaysia in Asia. I won't put America in since they fought the British off.

And no, the West is declining and have been declining. And when I say the West I mostly meant USA, the politics is so divided it is not looking good.
Germany was doing exceptionally well until this whole Ukraine thing happened.

From our point of view in the East , USA is doing a last ditch attempt to remain dominant.
Military wise , it will be very hard to catch up with them, economically wise it is a sooner or later issue, sooner rather then later.

The identity politics have spread over to Europe from USA like some sort of plague. Mass refugees and migration from countless of wars that the West is involved in isn't doing too well in Europe.


Of course you should count America, half the people are descended from the British Isles, and they took their civilisation with them post-independence

I wouldn't say the West is declining, it's just that other regions are slowly catching up

Incomes in the East are increasing, but are still far lower than the West, hence why the refugees all come here. But there are shit tons of more people in the East, of course a country with 1.3bn people will have a bigger economy than a country with 330m eventually

Still, the US/EU alliance is about $42tr in size, China parterning with a weak Russia is not even half the size of that, long term China needs a proper ally which it doesn't currently have

China's non-interventionist foreign policy (at least relative to the US) is a good thing, it must be said. The US is learning from its mistakes in this regard though I believe
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Quote (dro94 @ Apr 23 2022 06:23pm)
China's non-interventionist foreign policy (at least relative to the US) is a good thing, it must be said. The US is learning from its mistakes in this regard though I believe


What leads you to believe that? :)

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Apr 23 2022 09:35am
Quote (dro94 @ 23 Apr 2022 23:23)
Of course you should count America, half the people are descended from the British Isles, and they took their civilisation with them post-independence

I wouldn't say the West is declining, it's just that other regions are slowly catching up

Incomes in the East are increasing, but are still far lower than the West, hence why the refugees all come here. But there are shit tons of more people in the East, of course a country with 1.3bn people will have a bigger economy than a country with 330m eventually

Still, the US/EU alliance is about $42tr in size, China parterning with a weak Russia is not even half the size of that, long term China needs a proper ally which it doesn't currently have

China's non-interventionist foreign policy (at least relative to the US) is a good thing, it must be said. The US is learning from its mistakes in this regard though I believe


The trade growth with Europe and China has grown alot for the past couple of years, for sure not as much as the United States.
But the trade between China and Asean South East Asia doubles that of USA and Asean. The trade very well with their neighbours.
Russia buys resources from Russia they don't trade that much with them. The core of trade is mainly around our region and South Asia.
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Apr 23 2022 09:36am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 23 Apr 2022 15:17)
So what exactly you want to ask me.
You want to talk about what happened after the CCP took over from Civil War the Human Rights abuse that happened or you want to talk about recent 10 years.

Because if you start talking about what happen a number of years back and counting up till now
And since you are French
I would start talking and asking you about stuff like these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Tr%E1%BA%A1ch_massacre


In last 10 years, if you want

I read ;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China

Freedom of speech
Freedom of the press
Freedom of the Internet
Hukou system => Sad
Freedom of association
Religious freedom
Organ harvesting
Political freedom
Independence movements (lol)
Political prisoners
Freedom of movement, Privacy (ahah)
Capital punishment


You know what ? it's gigantic, but i have 1 very honest question, not forgeting you are from honk-kong and not from some suburbs of a random city.

Which human right violation is the worst, in China, on your eyes ? Which one breaks the most your chinese heart ?
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Apr 23 2022 09:38am
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The trade growth with Europe and China has grown alot for the past couple of years, for sure not as much as the United States.
But the trade between China and Asean South East Asia doubles that of USA and Asean. The trade very well with their neighbours.
Russia buys resources from Russia they don't trade that much with them. The core of trade is mainly around our region and South Asia.


Well, I am living in the East and in HK.
Don't want to brag, but China is doing better and better every year.
Singapore and Hong Kong have traditionally high wages.

I make less than my peers around me but after tax I do about 20k USD per month. I think that is fairly comfortable.
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Apr 23 2022 09:48am
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Disregarding the fact that it's not true, there are 10s of millions of Americans living in poverty as we speak

And millions of Europeans are being asked to "stop taking hot showers" and "use public transport instead of a car" because of their idiotic self-defeating sanctions on Russia.

It's fucking hilarious to watch you goons mock the Russian standard of living while the Western one is literally getting ready to collapse.

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Apr 23 2022 09:49am
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