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Apr 23 2022 06:01am
Quote (ferdia @ 23 Apr 2022 11:53)
the only certainty in life is death and taxes.

the fact that russia let ukraine be quasi independant refutes your comment re: certainty.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Belarus

The kind of country you deserve ?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 23 Apr 2022 20:01)


Why are you attacking Ferdia that way . :(
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Apr 23 2022 06:04am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 23 2022 01:51pm)
It's a simple choice: Like some kind of blue or red pill:

- No war with the East but your country identity will slowly disapear, your rights are reduced to peanuts and if you open your mouth you go in jail or worse. Your taxes are paying Yatchs to your rulers who are bllionaires in charge for life.
- War with support of the West: ending in democracy like in EU where you can shit on a picture of your president on the street, while drinking a bottle of good wine. Your taxes are not perfectly used but it's much better than the horror above.


country identity disappearing? rights reduced to peanuts?

sounds like france to me

and while you can shit on the president, if you shit on a certain religion of peace you will get your head chopped off, nice free speech buddy

you are in no position to talk or lecture ANYONE sauci
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 23 Apr 2022 11:58)
I am in the East and I am drinking very good wine. Couldn't afford crazy Burgundys but I am quite comfortable paying for Bordeaux First and Second Growth.
We don't really need to open our mouth too much because we are not suffering crazy infrastructure or health care problems like some countries in the West.
We have good social mobility, decent housing. Yes every now and then there are problems but it get solved pretty quickly.

There is no democracy in the West per say. The only time you have democracy is when you toe America's line.
We have seen it recently what happened in India, Serbia and now USA is threatening the Solomon Island because they are not toeing USA line.
As a matter of fact, in 2018 USA started to provide funds for a change of a democratically elected government in Solomon island.


Yep, i did a mistake by saying the "east" would better have to say: "fate of the popular people in the authoritarian countries of the east block."

You are lying, you perfectly know your condition has no relation with average Russian or Chinese labor.
You say there is no democracy in the West: you are lying again.

Ofc you can play with the words and claim democracy is not one when it's not perfect. I'll allow that :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 23 2022 06:09am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 23 Apr 2022 12:03)
Why are you attacking Ferdia that way . :(


It was a question, and Ferdia may appreciate to have some distraction.
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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 23 2022 01:19pm)
can anyone verify that the guy being interviewed is the person he is purported to be ? i guess we need that before we give that interview further oxygen.

^Saucisson6000 I would rather risk the possibility of being gobbled up then the surety of going to war.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksiy_Arestovych

There're even news headlines with his predictions as of now. Type his name in google news.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 23 Apr 2022 20:06)
Yep, i did a mistake by saying the "east" would better have to say: "fate of the popular people in the authoritarian countries of the east block."

You are lying, you perfectly know your condition has no relation with average Russian or Chinese labor.
You say there is no democracy in the West: you are lying again.

Ofc you can play with the words and claim democracy is not one when it's not perfect. I'll allow that :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Democracy_Index_2020.svg/1920px-Democracy_Index_2020.svg.png


The West shifted their labour to China.
When I said there was no democracy in the West I was very specific, you are only a democratic and upright government if you toe the American line.
I have never played with words , i am quite concise with my point of view. Of course , I can respect your opinions if you disagree.
But I will never say you are lying.

But I do understand when you are emotional as you are that would have affected your replies somehow or another.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 23 Apr 2022 12:15)
The West shifted their labour to China.
When I said there was no democracy in the West I was very specific, you are only a democratic and upright government if you toe the American line.
I have never played with words , i am quite concise with my point of view. Of course , I can respect your opinions if you disagree.
But I will never say you are lying.

But I do understand when you are emotional as you are that would have affected your replies somehow or another.


==>

"We don't really need to open our mouth too much because we are not suffering crazy infrastructure or health care problems like some countries in the West."


I think this is the kind of bullshit that triggered me. Sorry, really.

/e
Try world ranking on healthcare systems, but you already know what is wrong. If you are praising for Chinese regime while being in Hong-Kong, i guess it's fine, as a selfish person.

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==>

"We don't really need to open our mouth too much because we are not suffering crazy infrastructure or health care problems like some countries in the West."


I think this is the kind of bullshit that triggered me. Sorry, really.

/e
Try world ranking on healthcare systems, but already know what is wrong.


And a lot of people will agree with me that there is some crazy infrastructure problems in the West.
I am sorry it triggered you.

As a matter of fact even Joe Biden admitted it without thinking twice on national television last week.
But hey, you have your opinions , I have mine. I am staying and working where I am and I am experiencing the my world here so I think I am quite sure of what I am speaking about.
Furthermore the place where I am is a international financial hub , I work in two international financial hub. I get a lot of my information in regards to Europe by my Europe colleagues and partners.
And a lot of information about the USA from my American colleagues and Partners.

But you are welcome to think that I am talking bs.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 23 2022 11:30am)
1 to 4 no comment, not going to talk about those subject which I am not familiar with.

5) Not going to happen, India will not bow down to Western pressure anymore.


Oh it will. China is India's biggest threat, in the long term they'd be wise to ally with the West

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Apr 23 2022 11:54am)
when was the last time that a conflict was solved by more weapons?

at this point the argument you make just proves that the current war is just another proxy war

the geopolitical strategists in washington are laughing their asses off right now, because they can weaken russia immensely at the expense of the ukranian people

and the military industrial complex has some work as well, how splendid, win win B)

ukraine needs help, but also a perspective

btw, india is kinda too big to get bullied anymore, they have a very good relationship with russia


If we don't give Ukraine weapons, then Russia will occupy and brutalise a country for years to come. Is that what you want?

Ukraine has a very real chance of kicking the Russians out of their territory, it will be an attritional war with heavy casualties on both sides but it's the only real option we have
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