Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 31 2021 02:10am)

The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine

Since it's specifically for delta that's not surprising. There's little doubt that once we get a delta booster out it'll go back to vaccination being more effective.



Also looks like it's only comparing single vaccination, not double dose

"*Clarification, 28 August, 1:20 p.m.: This article has been updated to reflect that in an analysis involving previously infected people who received one vaccine dose, not all people received that dose after, rather than before, becoming infected. It has also been updated to clarify that the vaccinated people in the other two analyses had never been infected prior to being vaccinated."

So that's a big limitation.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 31 2021 08:19am)

Anyone with pre-existing condition btw, heil...

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 30 2021 11:41pm)

Only idiots think nobody was talking about natural immunity. Yourself among them.

The claim was never "natural immunity doesn't work". The claim was that natural immunity requires INFECTING PEOPLE, which results in massive numbers of hospitalizations, deaths, and closures to ensure the medical system isn't overwhelmed.

You guys like to pretend you want "natural immunity", but then refuse to take the precautions that would allow natural immunity to happen without causing mass graves. You want natural immunity? Then you have to mask up and distance so the hospitals don't get overwhelmed during. You want vaccines? Cool. Then mask up until one is developed, and work as hard as you can to get everybody to take it.

You guys refuse to mask up and then also refuse to even acknowledge the vaccine works. You can't have your cake and eat it too bud.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 31 2021 07:53am)

The Pfizer vaccine test group had no placebo. What kind of limitation is that?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 31 2021 01:34pm)

What a mind-numblingly stupid statement. You are truly a god damn moron if you really believe this.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 31 2021 12:36pm)

At first, they were a placebo group.

But then Pfizer said it was "unethical not to give people the real vaccine given the REAL LIFE RISK of the chyna virus"

Holy shit, that's some North Korea level cult logic.

The vaccine probably still works but Really?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 31 2021 01:41pm)

Once the study ends they're allowed to get the vaccine. The vaccine response was so robust you didn't even need statistics. It was a massive and obvious departure from the control group. Have you seriously not seen it?

https://wp.technologyreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PFIZER_CHART_NEW.png

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 31 2021 12:57pm)

If you structure the study in a way to alter the results, it raises doubt on the study.