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Aug 30 2021 06:31pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 31 Aug 2021 02:28)
Way to miss the mark... a pregnant woman deciding about whether to get an abortion is not only making a decision regarding her own body, but also one regarding her unborn child. The core argument of pro lifers is that she has no moral or ethical right to make this decision for another living being.

I'm pro choice myself, but still... it's absurd to portray the pro choice position as a caricature which has zero merit and represents pure ignorance.


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Aug 30 2021 06:37pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 30 2021 05:24pm)
of course they are making a misinformed decision, lol. but it is nonetheless a free decision. nobody forces them to forgo the vaccine, nobody forces them to listed to these demagogues and idiots.
covid deaths of this type, as tragic as they are, are the result of people making their own, free decision. if people prefer to listen to dunces and false prophets, grifters and religious delusion, then so be it.

also, it's not like Fox is still on board of the hardcore antivaxxer train. since delta has hit, the fox hosts have been telling people to get the vaccines and largely stopped the antivaxx messaging.
if it makes you happy to hear me spell it out loud: yes, Fox and friends of course l bear significant responsibility for having amplified and legitimized antivaxxer sentiment early in spite of knowing better.


pople prefer to pretend there is only the jab to be considered

Natural Immunity 13 Times More Effective Than RNA Alteration 8-27-2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HEkX7Nf0ocUy/
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#6253
Aug 30 2021 06:43pm
Quote (fender @ Aug 31 2021 02:31am)
whoooosh


in case this is directed at me, i am also pro choice within the german law, which is a very balanced solution and i never said otherwise

however its absurd that abortions are glorified nowadays despite a hundred ways for birth control, but a free decision about whats entering your body is evil

of course i never expected you to get it

btw, i am still waiting for any proof whatsoever that i am an antivaxxer, please enlighten me
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Aug 30 2021 06:56pm
popem till you dropem
Two men die in Japan after receiving Moderna shots - RT
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Aug 30 2021 07:19pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Aug 30 2021 07:56pm)
popem till you dropem
Two men die in Japan after receiving Moderna shots - RT
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JqF82YMsRaw9/


I heard they ate that day too. Better not eat just in case
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#6256
Aug 30 2021 11:32pm
Israel study: natural immunity is 30x better than the vaccines.
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Aug 30 2021 11:37pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 31 2021 12:32am)
Israel study: natural immunity is 30x better than the vaccines.


Citation needed
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Aug 31 2021 12:08am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 31 2021 06:37am)
Citation needed


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

Heres an article about it
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Aug 31 2021 12:10am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Aug 31 2021 01:08am)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

Heres an article about it


The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine

Since it's specifically for delta that's not surprising. There's little doubt that once we get a delta booster out it'll go back to vaccination being more effective.



Also looks like it's only comparing single vaccination, not double dose

"*Clarification, 28 August, 1:20 p.m.: This article has been updated to reflect that in an analysis involving previously infected people who received one vaccine dose, not all people received that dose after, rather than before, becoming infected. It has also been updated to clarify that the vaccinated people in the other two analyses had never been infected prior to being vaccinated."

So that's a big limitation.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Aug 31 2021 12:12am
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Aug 31 2021 12:20am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 31 2021 07:10am)
The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine

Since it's specifically for delta that's not surprising. There's little doubt that once we get a delta booster out it'll go back to vaccination being more effective.



Also looks like it's only comparing single vaccination, not double dose

"*Clarification, 28 August, 1:20 p.m.: This article has been updated to reflect that in an analysis involving previously infected people who received one vaccine dose, not all people received that dose after, rather than before, becoming infected. It has also been updated to clarify that the vaccinated people in the other two analyses had never been infected prior to being vaccinated."

So that's a big limitation.


I see it as a big positive news as no1 before this even dared talking about natural immunity without being mocked and insulted.every research is a good research
I just wonder for how long do antibodies stay after being diagnosed with positive covid test

I guess it might be in the neighbourhood of 6 months but im not surr any researches have been done yet on that

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Aug 31 2021 12:21am
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