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Apr 22 2022 08:00am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 22 2022 07:52am)
Just to clarify the consequences of the Syrian war was not Brexit. Poor government in the UK, particularly on the part of David Cameron, was the cause of Brexit. There is ample reading material to outline:

1. Successive British governments were not happy to be part of Team EU and would rather be Leader of EU. They dont like taking orders, they like making them. This formented dislike of the EU for decades in english government.
2. Successive British governments were all too eager to blame anything that went wrong in england on the EU, or to use EU as a useful distraction when trying to distract from whatever current event was causing them problems. This formented grassroots dislike of the EU for decades.
3. David Cameron decided to use the Brexit question to deflect from something else and then fell flat on his face when the vote actually passed.

That is how brexit came about.

also re: Look now at the UK sending african migrants to Rwanda and taking in half as many refugees from ukraine as ireland did. Now there's a cold dose of reality on Ukraine's future with Europe

I would say that the english people are not racist but their government policies are and their home office is deplorable. a reminder again that when referencing the UK, refer to government or institutions and not use the wider "UK" term noting not everyone in the UK (or Russia, or Ukraine) is a shit.


eh every geopolitical event is related and has a hundred causal factors. Brexit wouldn't have occurred without the Syrian war, it was the refugee crisis that created the public support for breaking away from the EU. It wasn't until a bunch of women were groped on news years at cologne that the anti-immigrant wave reached a strong enough pitch to push the UK away. And sure, that's only possible because the UK was never really invested in the EU to begin with and always had cold feet, because of government distrust, because of economic factors with the push and pull of austerity and overspending on social programs they couldn't afford, blah blah blah. For the purposes of the Ukraine parallel, I think the main takeaway is that the europes willingness to absorb all the refugees of the world and pay for the welfare of shithole countries, has limits. That Putin could exploit it to drive a wedge into the EU and break it up, that the EU wasn't interest in being the benefactors of Ukraine.
I do think that at a wider lens, the fact that we even have to play around with the idea of calling the UK racist for not being willing to bear the cross of every brown person in the world, when every non-western country is self-interested and largely homogenous and xenophobic, is demented. It shows how self-destructive the baizuo movement has been. How many Ukrainian refugees are being resettled in Japan and South Korea and Vietnam? 300-400? A whole basket of deplorables
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Apr 22 2022 08:01am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 22 2022 08:52am)
^HeLiCaL
^thesnipa

guys if you want to talk about pedophilia you can make a topic about it.

while i am at it:

^Djunior sir, you are getting very angry today and this is diluting your message. have a look over your recent posts. I accept this is a very contentious topic with heated debate and that it is quite frustrating at times but getting angry is removing oxygen from your arguments. I am trying to be helpful here.




Quote (HeLiCaL @ Apr 22 2022 09:12am)
if you are threatening to become a pedo out of spite just cause you saw someone condemn pedophilia at a time when children get sent by their parents to dance on stage in strip clubs & get tens of thousands of upvotes on social media - that is your problem


as predicted. snipestradamus is never wrong.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 22 2022 04:47pm)
context =/= condemnation

i support doing all sorts of negative things, im speaking to you after all.

the issue is you think the battle vs pedophilia is just pure condemnation. im interested in preventing as much pedophilia as possible, so i look into what the science says.

some research suggests adverse labeling can lead to less therapy and more pedophilia, im skeptical just as i am on many of the therapeutics around pedophiles but im open to research it and change my stance. you're not, you're dead set. i asked you what if because i already knew you wouldnt even consider it, funny enough you memorized that conversation but didnt do any reflection. you think fighting pedophilia is just screaming "PEDO" or "PEDO APOLOGIST" at people, which is pretty funny tbh.

you wont even respond thoughtfully to this post, what a waste of a decent memory.


if you are threatening to become a pedo out of spite just cause you saw someone condemn pedophilia at a time when children get sent by their parents to dance on stage in strip clubs & get tens of thousands of upvotes on social media - that is your problem

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Apr 22 2022 08:19am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ 22 Apr 2022 14:12)
if you are threatening to become a pedo out of spite just cause you saw someone condemn pedophilia at a time when children get sent by their parents to dance on stage in strip clubs & get tens of thousands of upvotes on social media - that is your problem


If you think you ever have a point, please do a separate topic for that, with proofs.
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Apr 22 2022 08:23am
Causality of the Ukraine war

Putin's regime => Keep imposing the oligarchy-kleptocracy => Successve fails in keeping puppets in charge => End up to start an invasion to "liberate" Ukraine.
Nato/Us/Eu => Are proposing to Ukraine to join them => Support for revolt/protests => End up to give intelligence and military support to Ukraine.
Ukrainian people => Want to get rid of Putin's regime => Maidan revolt in 2014 want join EU => Elect Zelensky with 73% of votes in 2019 => Take the arms and fight.

My preference: more like Russia's fault. But does Putin's regime really representing Russians ?

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 22 2022 05:19pm)
If you think you ever have a point, please do a separate topic for that, with proofs.


ok bro, this u on the right side btw ?

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Quote (HeLiCaL @ 22 Apr 2022 14:27)
ok bro, this u on the right side btw ?

https://i.imgur.com/9lgW9MX.jpg


Stop your spam and personal attacks please, else i will be forced to report you to goblins
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Apr 22 2022 08:37am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Apr 22 2022 10:27am)
ok bro, this u on the right side btw ?

https://i.imgur.com/9lgW9MX.jpg


They can quit acting like orcs.
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Apr 22 2022 08:40am
Quote (Djunior @ 22 Apr 2022 15:13)
You are living in your own bubble, just repeating the same stuff you said before.

Once again, this is not about a new Soviet empire, it's not about Hitler, stop listening to woke MSM.

This is about several consecutive rounds of NATO expansion and Russia drawing a line in the sand. But you don't seem to get that just like many others here.

The proof is out there and it's indisputable. If you don't know what that means, it cannot be denied. It happened, it's history ;)

You should watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4



What a bunch of BS

I'm pointing out facts that cannot be denied. NATO's policy backfired

You're such a woke snowflake that you can't handle reality. Sucks for you.

You should prolly take a brake from PARD before you suffer a mental breakdown ;)


75minutes video, probably one side propaganda. Probably waste of time, but maybe i watch it, idk.
Putin's Russia is simply an evil country, that wants to rebuild its old evil empire.
They want to enslave other nations. Sometimes they success without war, like in Belarus, other times they need war like in Ukraine.
Countries can choose their own friends, their own trade partners, their own alliances.
Now in the age of long-distance nukes, and Russia's nuclear submarines everywhere in the world, nobody sane can even think about attacking Russia, whether we like it or not.
And for sure not the democratic liberal countries. So its all BS that NATO countries scare them.
Eastern Europe resists Russia attacks and occupation for 250years already, with only some peacetime breaks. Nobody here wants to be russian slave. When we (Poland) were under Russian occupation, monthly salary here was just 20usd, all the best goods like meat were forcibly exported to Russia at low or no cost, shops here were pretty much empty and there were queues for hours. Our elites and opposition were being killed. In exchange Russia gave us only trash like bad for our health asbestos, that they had plenty to spare. Not to mention numerous rapes by Russian soldiers. And we can still consider ourselves lucky as a country, as we didnt have a "great hunger" , that Russian applied to Ukraine.
My uncle was a polish policeman, and as such "potentially dangerous person who knows how to use arms" was deported to Russia's cold Syberia. Never made it to come back home.
Why do you give Russians law to enslave other countries?
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Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 22 2022 03:40pm)
75minutes video, probably one side propaganda. Probably waste of time, but maybe i watch it, idk.
Putin's Russia is simply an evil country, that wants to rebuild its old evil empire.
They want to enslave other nations. Sometimes they success without war, like in Belarus, other times they need war like in Ukraine.
Countries can choose their own friends, their own trade partners, their own alliances.
Now in the age of long-distance nukes, and Russia's nuclear submarines everywhere in the world, nobody sane can even think about attacking Russia, whether we like it or not.
And for sure not the democratic liberal countries. So its all BS that NATO countries scare them.
Eastern Europe resists Russia attacks and occupation for 250years already, with only some peacetime breaks. Nobody here wants to be russian slave. When we (Poland) were under Russian occupation, monthly salary here was just 20usd, all the best goods like meat were forcibly exported to Russia at low or no cost, shops here were pretty much empty and there were queues for hours. Our elites and opposition were being killed. In exchange Russia gave us only trash like bad for our health asbestos, that they had plenty to spare. Not to mention numerous rapes by Russian soldiers. And we can still consider ourselves lucky as a country, as we didnt have a "great hunger" , that Russian applied to Ukraine.
My uncle was a polish policeman, and as such "potentially dangerous person who knows how to use arms" was deported to Russia's cold Syberia. Never made it to come back home.
Why do you give Russians law to enslave other countries?


count to 10 before responding

regardless of your inclination, that video is quite informative. While you might call it propaganda, I would instead have called it an early warning system (which failed, as it was not heeded), or common sense (but that the powers that be pursued their own course of alternative "common sense").

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 22 2022 09:00am
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