Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 22 2022 12:38am)
Ukraine was not offered a MAP or given a concrete date to join NATO. Resistance was reportedly met from France and Germany.
Why do you give Russia a decision what their neighbours can do, and what they cant? Only because Russia is twice as big as Ukraine and has more money from natural resources?
Of course whatever Russia says is fake and they are only looking for excuses, for example when they get beaten at Kyiv they said "oh, we are nice people, we are going to leave Kyiv as a sign of goodwill".
Something like 2 days before the war they said that they arent going to invade Ukraine.
Never trust a word that Putin or his people says.
Building a new empire isnt madness for Putin. Its very risky, but it can possibly work out, if he can scare western people. You cant really use nukes for offensive actions too much, as nukes are mainly defensive mutual destruction weapons, you need a conventional strength as well to make wars like the one in Ukraine. And for conventional strength you need people, you need factories, Russia doesnt have it currently. It used to have as USSR or "warsaw pact", and it was an empire back then, but doesnt have currently.
And about Hitler, we need to learn from the history so that we dont make same mistakes again over and over. France was very sure that Hitler cannot conquer them. But he did.
You say that invasion isnt possible in age of nukes, but for example, is USA going to start nuke "end of world" war if Russia takes Alaska as they say it was Russian once in the history?
I doubt it.
What if Russia makes some serious propaganda in one of the states in USA, so that some USA people will ask Russia troops to come protect them from "Nazi USA government"?
Are you going to nuke that state and your own people? or start fullscale "end of world" nuke war because of it? I doubt it, it will be again a propaganda and conventional war.
As you see things are not always black and white.
You are living in your own bubble, just repeating the same stuff you said before.
Once again, this is not about a new Soviet empire, it's not about Hitler, stop listening to woke MSM.
This is about
several consecutive rounds of NATO expansion and Russia drawing a line in the sand. But you don't seem to get that just like many others here.
The proof is out there and it's indisputable. If you don't know what that means, it cannot be denied. It happened, it's history
You should watch this
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 22 2022 12:38am)
Pooping on your self-inflated ego to make it look beautiful will not help it. Your link proves nothing except that your lack of capacity in understanding the whole picture.
The only things you can do are "they are all the same, so putin isnt that that" and "oh look a nato proposition: this is a declaration of war!"
Putin is trying to grab back territories and influence since 20 years to rebuild the great old soviet union...
Once again, since you are unable to collect and reunite all elements, you fall in some kind of unilateral simplistic thinking.
What a bunch of BS
I'm pointing out facts that cannot be denied.
NATO's policy backfiredYou're such a woke snowflake that you can't handle reality. Sucks for you.
You should prolly take a brake from PARD before you suffer a mental breakdown