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Apr 6 2021 06:50am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 05:48am)
good samaritan laws do protect police officers who act in good faith to try and save someone, but civil suits can still be lodged against them or more likely the department afaik.

in any case the "i didnt want to get sued" excuse is flimsy at best, someone exercising that level of foresight also shouldnt stay on top of an unconscious body for 4 minutes and have to be told to get off by paramedics. Had Chauvin simply gotten off Floyd once he went limp and then froze, refused to give aid, we'd likely not see a trial now.

the riots would have still happened, because prior to the autopsy report with comments people would have assumed Chauvin choked floyd to death then failed to revive him. but afterwards it would have been clear Floyd died of an overdose and had not windpipe bruising to suggest Chauvin impeded his breathing, and then let him try and recover once he passed out.


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Apr 6 2021 06:54am
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given the trial thusfar my guess is he walks on the 2nd degree charge, eats the 3rd degree charge, gets sentenced to 10 years, gets out in 5 with an ankle bracelet, gets a gofundme for his family because he'll never work again unless its a dusty road arizona gas station night shift, and riots happen although small scale after dark because people wanted 40 years on a 2nd degree charge or some such.

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Apr 6 2021 10:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 08:54am)
given the trial thusfar my guess is he walks on the 2nd degree charge, eats the 3rd degree charge, gets sentenced to 10 years, gets out in 5 with an ankle bracelet, gets a gofundme for his family because he'll never work again unless its a dusty road arizona gas station night shift, and riots happen although small scale after dark because people wanted 40 years on a 2nd degree charge or some such.

#remindme2weeks


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Apr 6 2021 10:03am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 07:54am)
given the trial thusfar my guess is he walks on the 2nd degree charge, eats the 3rd degree charge, gets sentenced to 10 years, gets out in 5 with an ankle bracelet, gets a gofundme for his family because he'll never work again unless its a dusty road arizona gas station night shift, and riots happen although small scale after dark because people wanted 40 years on a 2nd degree charge or some such.

#remindme2weeks


I agree with everything but this. I think the rioting will be substantial.... at least initially.

I guess it depends on your definition of "scale".
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Apr 6 2021 10:05am
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I agree with everything but this. I think the rioting will be substantial.... at least initially.

I guess it depends on your definition of "scale".


i think it will be on the scale of an NFL team winning the superbowl, smashed up cars under a dozen, broken windows under 2 dozen, fights with arrests under 2 dozen, no shots fired.

as compared to the initial riots with dozens of buildings burned, DOZENS of cars smashed up, mass spread looting.
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Apr 6 2021 10:09am
Quote (thesnipa @ 6 Apr 2021 09:05)
i think it will be on the scale of an NFL team winning the superbowl, smashed up cars under a dozen, broken windows under 2 dozen, fights with arrests under 2 dozen, no shots fired.

as compared to the initial riots with dozens of buildings burned, DOZENS of cars smashed up, mass spread looting.


I dunno man. Some people need new Jordan's and a television. I expect some good rioting and looting regardless of conviction.
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Apr 6 2021 10:10am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 11:05am)
i think it will be on the scale of an NFL team winning the superbowl, smashed up cars under a dozen, broken windows under 2 dozen, fights with arrests under 2 dozen, no shots fired.

as compared to the initial riots with dozens of buildings burned, DOZENS of cars smashed up, mass spread looting.


We'll see. I hope the riots will be small and contained but this case is such a national story i feel like it's a bit of a powder keg.

Anything less than a full conviction with max penalty will cause some problems, IMO.
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Apr 6 2021 10:10am
Quote (thesnipa @ 6 Apr 2021 08:54)
given the trial thusfar my guess is he walks on the 2nd degree charge, eats the 3rd degree charge, gets sentenced to 10 years, gets out in 5 with an ankle bracelet, gets a gofundme for his family because he'll never work again unless its a dusty road arizona gas station night shift, and riots happen although small scale after dark because people wanted 40 years on a 2nd degree charge or some such.

#remindme2weeks



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Apr 6 2021 10:16am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 12:05pm)
i think it will be on the scale of an NFL team winning the superbowl, smashed up cars under a dozen, broken windows under 2 dozen, fights with arrests under 2 dozen, no shots fired.

as compared to the initial riots with dozens of buildings burned, DOZENS of cars smashed up, mass spread looting.


I think that if he only gets 10 years, the rioting will be worse than that.

not guilty of murder2 = repeat of the initial night. Hearing the jury read the words 'not guilty' in any capacity will be like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Logic is out the window at that point.

The only thing that could be different is if the city is prepared this time. Like, say they just have the national guard barricading the streets beforehand, then it will easier for people to talk themselves into keeping a lid on things.

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Apr 6 2021 10:32am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 12:05pm)
i think it will be on the scale of an NFL team winning the superbowl, smashed up cars under a dozen, broken windows under 2 dozen, fights with arrests under 2 dozen, no shots fired.

as compared to the initial riots with dozens of buildings burned, DOZENS of cars smashed up, mass spread looting.



I think we have to remember that we now live in a world where the chinese government uses Tic Toc to selectively spread videos teaching “how to riot”
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