He has a lot of street cred with the evangelical right and there is going to be a lot of political backlash after eight years of Trump akin to like there is against Obama. I don't know if any other Republican will be able to escape that shadow with McCain dead, who was older than Methuselah lol.

I don't like him, but he is a certified genius and legal mastermind.

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Rubio could be the guy if he grows more assertive and learns to get in sync with the populist strain of the GOP. Nikki Hailey could be a unifying figure for a party which wants to move a few inches back towards the center and wants to appeal slightly more to women and brown people in a post-Trump era. In 15 years or so, Dan Crenshaw might be a senator and make for a good presidential candidate. In 2024, Pence might run, knowing full well that it's probably gonna be futile.

pence is DOA after 8 years of being Trump's "behind the scenes" guy. he doesnt have that Al Gore track record, he's just a face/name that's done next to nothing publicly thusfar. imo

Ruboto i hope has been unplugged forever. he was the Eric Swalwell of 2016, calculated pivot to camera, precanned speech, punchable face.

Hailey could be great, but i dont know if she has presidential ambitions.

Crenshaw is great, but i fear the eyepatch will stop him from winning the nomination. not joking, i really do think people are so superficial they wont vote in a villain looking dude even knowing its a veteran war wound.


If i had hand pick i'd choose Bill Weld. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Weld

and in todays climate a record as secretary is better than record as senator. where you have voting record for easy debate jabs.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 11 2019 02:59pm

Idk man, somehow I think all the guys who lost to Trump are cursed forever. If Trump's image becomes negative somehow I expect that effect to only become worse.

GOP needs new blood as much as the Dems do.

Trump ended Rubio

Crenshaw I thought was alright at first but he memes too much and plays to the silly parts of trump's base too often the days. That's good for him and bad for me. Memers do good with repulicans and this one looks like a young pirate they will like him even more

I predict he continues his heel switch slowly but surely and keeps enough typical conservatives and brings in enough of the trump memers to really have a shot

Boring conservatives can still win but if anyone picks up the nonsense itll be Crenshaw down the road. He's not gonna end up what he started as if he sticks around. Gonna go full heel

Pence would be nothing more than a candidate for the count anyway, as would pretty much every possible GOP candidate after 8 years of Trump.

Bill Weld, I dont know. He seems too moderate in a lot of ways to appeal to the GOP base. But I might be wrong on that one.




Well, Trump cucked all of them in 2016. But Rubio... Trump's portrayal of him as "little Marco Rubio" shot at his young age, relative lack of experience - in short, at Rubio being out of his league at that point in time. Which was true, which is why the 'linguistic killswitch' stuck.
But that's not a fundamental flaw of character, it's something Rubio can grow out of.



Crenshaw is adapting to the zeitgeist, and on the right, the zeitgeist is memes and "heelish" behavior. Trump ran on "heel heat" and it carried him to the United States Presidential Championship.

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he's incredibly moderate. but he's got many libertarian ideas of economy and is really good with quick answers. he's got the track record and i think he can appeal to both the eastern side of the country and the midwest, and will ofc sweep up any southern votes as always. his biggest minus is attaching himself to the disastrous Johnson campaign in 2016.

The squad huh. Pretty sure Taylor Swift already had a squad like 5 years ago, that’s some cultural appropriation there by Aoc. *LAUGH OUT LOUD*

Seems like a cookie cutter progressive immigration plan. Most of it is politically untenable... I don't see Warren or any other Democratic president making immigration reform a top priority, because they don't have the votes and even if they did, they would get destroyed in the midterms.

It's kind of funny that people have to pretend something like this is even possible to justify voting for the orange buffoon.

I agree with Lindsey completely. I'm much closer to Trump on immigration than I am any Democrat candidate.