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Aug 6 2016 05:20am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 6 Aug 2016 05:13)




I think you get what you want, when you know what you're really asking for
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I'm asking You Lord, to give me what You have left.
Give me those things which others never ask of You.
I don't ask You for rest, or tranquility.
Not that of the spirit, the body, or the mind.
I don't ask You for wealth, or success, or even health.
All those things are asked of You so much Lord,
that you can't have any left to give.
Give me instead Lord what You have left.
Give me what others don't want.
I want uncertainty and doubt.
I want torment and battle.
And I ask that You give them to me now and forever Lord,
so I can be sure to always have them,
because I won't always have the strength to ask again.
But give me also the courage, the energy,
and the spirit to face them.
I ask You these things Lord,
because I can't ask them of myself.
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Aug 6 2016 05:37am
Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Aug 6 2016 07:52pm)
No, but god DOES need to make a difference to all those starving children to call himself all-loving and all-powerful. If he can do it for some, he can do it for all, right?

Why don't you stop surrendering intellectually and actually think about this, rather than trying to dodge the question and make it all about painting me in a negative light? I could be a mass murderer and it would make not a gnat's dick of difference to the validity of my point.


Oh God DOES make a difference, just not in the way that you think. The way that God acts is through his people. Look at all of those charities that are set up to help those starving children. Those people that actually do help them, God is acting through them. Is that why you aren't a part of the charities, because you are not acting on behalf of God?

Quote (the_rest @ Aug 6 2016 08:23pm)
will you bullshit me into religion ?


Imagine if I hated somebody to no end, what is the worst thing that I could ever do? Not tell them about Jesus. Oh sure give them a few years it won't mean much but then one day they will die. One day you will die and you will face judgement. It is inevitable.
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Aug 6 2016 05:44am
Quote (MaliceMizer @ 6 Aug 2016 12:20)
I think you get what you want, when you know what you're really asking for

i dont see you point

like that


please help me not dying we have 100 times better material and weapons please lord be nice with us etc... ROFL what a bunch of MORONS;
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Aug 6 2016 06:15am
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 6 2016 12:37pm)
Oh God DOES make a difference, just not in the way that you think. The way that God acts is through his people. Look at all of those charities that are set up to help those starving children. Those people that actually do help them, God is acting through them. Is that why you aren't a part of the charities, because you are not acting on behalf of God?



Imagine if I hated somebody to no end, what is the worst thing that I could ever do? Not tell them about Jesus. Oh sure give them a few years it won't mean much but then one day they will die. One day you will die and you will face judgement. It is inevitable.


So god can appear personally to save some retard white kid who set his own house on fire, but has to act through a relatively slowly acting organisation to save the black children? I don't think he thought that plan through very well...

It's so easy to equate any positive moral force in this world to the manipulations of a fictional divine power, especially when you're deluded enough to think that any moral act must have come from god.

Think about it...he can either click his fingers and instantly bring an end to the horrific suffering of billions of people, or he can play games with us and prolong the suffering. The fact that so many children have died already, and continue to die every day, shows that there is no divine intervention there, just common human decency (which is, unfortunately, not enough).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

^^ What was god doing when Elisabeth Fritzl was being imprisoned and raped by her father? 24 years he must have watched, with indifference...if he exists, he is one sick fucker, and I can't imagine why anyone would want to give him glory :lol:
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 6 Aug 2016 06:44)
i dont see you point

like that
http://kxoj.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/us-marines-pray-before-heading-out-on-patrol-in-kajaki-afghanistan-in-2010.jpg

please help me not dying we have 100 times better material and weapons please lord be nice with us etc... ROFL what a bunch of MORONS;


We never prayed before a mission to not die,
That's some pussy shit.
We prayed dying would be a blast & that we'd enter the kingdom of heaven through valhalla.

This post was edited by MaliceMizer on Aug 6 2016 06:38am
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Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Aug 6 2016 10:15pm)
So god can appear personally to save some retard white kid who set his own house on fire, but has to act through a relatively slowly acting organisation to save the black children? I don't think he thought that plan through very well...

It's so easy to equate any positive moral force in this world to the manipulations of a fictional divine power, especially when you're deluded enough to think that any moral act must have come from god.

Think about it...he can either click his fingers and instantly bring an end to the horrific suffering of billions of people, or he can play games with us and prolong the suffering. The fact that so many children have died already, and continue to die every day, shows that there is no divine intervention there, just common human decency (which is, unfortunately, not enough).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

^^ What was god doing when Elisabeth Fritzl was being imprisoned and raped by her father? 24 years he must have watched, with indifference...if he exists, he is one sick fucker, and I can't imagine why anyone would want to give him glory :lol:


Oh I do not believe xFrodobagginsx as he is trying to keep this thread alive as long as he can. I have been waiting patiently but for some reason, people are still replying whenever he bumps this thread.
God chooses to remain anonymous in the case when he acts through his people. God will not directly reveal himself to sinners, that being us. Even when he did back in the Old Testament times, that did not change the hearts of the Israelite's. If he revealed himself to us now that will not change a single thing within us, which is the most important thing of all.

Maybe God knows where the real issue lies, not in the suffering but in the eternity. Maybe people have suffered in the short span of the here and now but then they have to suffer no more for all eternity. Perhaps death isn't the worst thing that can happen. Perhaps the biggest divine intervention has already happened with Jesus on the cross.
Or perhaps you will not help those starving children because you are too lazy to do so, you expect somebody else to do it all for you.
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Aug 6 2016 07:42am
Quote (MaliceMizer @ 6 Aug 2016 13:37)
We never prayed before a mission to not die,
That's some pussy shit.
We prayed dying would be a blast & that we'd enter the kingdom of heaven through valhalla.


oh ye valhalla, thats a pretty good for an infidel, thats cool.
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Quote (CPK001 @ 6 Aug 2016 14:29)
Oh I do not believe xFrodobagginsx as he is trying to keep this thread alive as long as he can. I have been waiting patiently but for some reason, people are still replying whenever he bumps this thread.
God chooses to remain anonymous in the case when he acts through his people. God will not directly reveal himself to sinners, that being us. Even when he did back in the Old Testament times, that did not change the hearts of the Israelite's. If he revealed himself to us now that will not change a single thing within us, which is the most important thing of all.

Maybe God knows where the real issue lies, not in the suffering but in the eternity. Maybe people have suffered in the short span of the here and now but then they have to suffer no more for all eternity. Perhaps death isn't the worst thing that can happen. Perhaps the biggest divine intervention has already happened with Jesus on the cross.
Or perhaps you will not help those starving children because you are too lazy to do so, you expect somebody else to do it all for you.

yeah nobody is perfect, imo never spread that kind of stuff front of my kids.

god this god that, jesus on the cross, etc... good job, really
but when it's time to give away all your possession like Jesus is advizing, oh please forgive me

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Aug 6 2016 07:50am
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Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Jan 25 2016 04:38am)
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will Admit to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, Believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and Accept Him as your Lord and Savior and you will be forgiven and taken to heaven to be with Him when you die.

Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your trust in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?

ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe it with all of your heart, you could pray something like this to God from your heart:

"Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


I do not believe in heaven or hell.

I don't believe in religion either.
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Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 6 2016 02:29pm)
Oh I do not believe xFrodobagginsx as he is trying to keep this thread alive as long as he can. I have been waiting patiently but for some reason, people are still replying whenever he bumps this thread.
God chooses to remain anonymous in the case when he acts through his people. God will not directly reveal himself to sinners, that being us. Even when he did back in the Old Testament times, that did not change the hearts of the Israelite's. If he revealed himself to us now that will not change a single thing within us, which is the most important thing of all.

Maybe God knows where the real issue lies, not in the suffering but in the eternity. Maybe people have suffered in the short span of the here and now but then they have to suffer no more for all eternity. Perhaps death isn't the worst thing that can happen. Perhaps the biggest divine intervention has already happened with Jesus on the cross.
Or perhaps you will not help those starving children because you are too lazy to do so, you expect somebody else to do it all for you.



You claim to know a lot about how god operates. Are you in direct contact with him?

If god revealed himself to me, I would absolutely believe. I'd still think he was a sick fuck, and I wouldn't worship him in a million years, but I would believe that he existed. The fuck are you talking about?

I challenge you to say to any victim of such atrocities as Elisabeth Fritzl 'your suffering was no big deal, because you'll have a better time in the next life'. I think they'd have to peel your face off the sidewalk.
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