Quote (Djunior @ 22 Apr 2022 00:08)
Putin started this war because NATO accepted Ukraine's aspirations for membership in the future. Here's the indisputable proof, 2008 NATO summit Bucharest
https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.htmlSecondly the poor Ukrainians are not so innocent as you make belief. They've been stealing Russian gas for a long time and didn't pay their bills, it was EU that payed outstanding bills. Here's the indisputable proof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputesThis kind of stuff caused Russia-Ukraine relationship to deteriorate even before the problems caused by NATO and the EU (causing Ukraine to turn it's back to Russia which they see as a huge betrayal).
Thirdly Putin isn't building a new empire, this would be madness in the age of nuclear weapons. Putin simply drew a line in the sand, no more NATO expansion on his border. Simple as that.
Lastly Hitler got nothing to do with this. A completely different time and a guy drunk of his initial success thinking he could take on the rest of the world. This kind of stuff is not possible in the age of nukes.
Ukraine was not offered a MAP or given a concrete date to join NATO. Resistance was reportedly met from France and Germany.
Why do you give Russia a decision what their neighbours can do, and what they cant? Only because Russia is twice as big as Ukraine and has more money from natural resources?
Of course whatever Russia says is fake and they are only looking for excuses, for example when they get beaten at Kyiv they said "oh, we are nice people, we are going to leave Kyiv as a sign of goodwill".
Something like 2 days before the war they said that they arent going to invade Ukraine.
Never trust a word that Putin or his people says.
Building a new empire isnt madness for Putin. Its very risky, but it can possibly work out, if he can scare western people. You cant really use nukes for offensive actions too much, as nukes are mainly defensive mutual destruction weapons, you need a conventional strength as well to make wars like the one in Ukraine. And for conventional strength you need people, you need factories, Russia doesnt have it currently. It used to have as USSR or "warsaw pact", and it was an empire back then, but doesnt have currently.
And about Hitler, we need to learn from the history so that we dont make same mistakes again over and over. France was very sure that Hitler cannot conquer them. But he did.
You say that invasion isnt possible in age of nukes, but for example, is USA going to start nuke "end of world" war if Russia takes Alaska as they say it was Russian once in the history?
I doubt it.
What if Russia makes some serious propaganda in one of the states in USA, so that some USA people will ask Russia troops to come protect them from "Nazi USA government"?
Are you going to nuke that state and your own people? or start fullscale "end of world" nuke war because of it? I doubt it, it will be again a propaganda and conventional war.
As you see things are not always black and white.