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Aug 28 2021 10:04am
"Social distance inside, it'll all get back to normal, they said. Wear masks inside, in public places, it'll all go away, they said. Get vaccinated, when vaccine participation hits 50% it'll all go away they said. It doesn't spread outdoors, deal with takeout and outdoor dining, it'll all go away, they said."

Meanwhile, in Oregon: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-becomes-first-in-the-nation-to-re-introduce-outdoor-mask-mandate

:rofl:
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Aug 28 2021 10:39am
Quote (Crunkt @ 28 Aug 2021 17:41)
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

Republicans finding a way to actually just kill themselves.

Imagine thinking Dying to COVID is owning the Libs.


Unfortunately, this it outdated data. In May, Delta was not dominant yet and most vaccinations among the risk groups (age 60+ or preexisting conditions) were very fresh and hadn't started to wane yet.

Vaccinations are still offering a very good protection and all the disphits should get them, but we have to be honest. By now, breakthrough infections/deaths will have a higher share than 1.1%/0.8%.


Quote (InsaneBobb @ 28 Aug 2021 18:04)
"Social distance inside, it'll all get back to normal, they said. Wear masks inside, in public places, it'll all go away, they said. Get vaccinated, when vaccine participation hits 50% it'll all go away they said. It doesn't spread outdoors, deal with takeout and outdoor dining, it'll all go away, they said."

Meanwhile, in Oregon: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-becomes-first-in-the-nation-to-re-introduce-outdoor-mask-mandate

:rofl:

That's what you get when an entire state's politics is dominated by Portland moonbats.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 28 2021 10:40am
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Vaccinations are still offering a very good protection and all the disphits should get them, but we have to be honest. By now, breakthrough infections/deaths will have a higher share than 1.1%/0.8%.


Is this true? I mean, they're talking people with both shots may now need to get a booster shot after only 5 months. If vaccines are "effective" isn't that kind of a problem?

T-Cell immunity seems to be more effective, just as with the flu. Get one strain, other strains are less of a danger, more of a... cold. No?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#:~:text=These%20findings%20demonstrate%20that%20virus,long-term%20T%20cell%20immunity.

If anything, it seems like the insistence that those who've had covid should still get vaccinated is kind of stupid the more it appears the vaccines aren't effective long term.
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Aug 28 2021 11:12am
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Likewise, i'm not fond of lying pricks.


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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 12:03pm)
Is this true? I mean, they're talking people with both shots may now need to get a booster shot after only 5 months. If vaccines are "effective" isn't that kind of a problem?

T-Cell immunity seems to be more effective, just as with the flu. Get one strain, other strains are less of a danger, more of a... cold. No?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#:~:text=These%20findings%20demonstrate%20that%20virus,long-term%20T%20cell%20immunity.

If anything, it seems like the insistence that those who've had covid should still get vaccinated is kind of stupid the more it appears the vaccines aren't effective long term.


Vaccine immunity is T cell mediated dumb dumb.
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Aug 28 2021 11:19am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 10:03am)
Is this true? I mean, they're talking people with both shots may now need to get a booster shot after only 5 months. If vaccines are "effective" isn't that kind of a problem?

T-Cell immunity seems to be more effective, just as with the flu. Get one strain, other strains are less of a danger, more of a... cold. No?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#:~:text=These%20findings%20demonstrate%20that%20virus,long-term%20T%20cell%20immunity.

If anything, it seems like the insistence that those who've had covid should still get vaccinated is kind of stupid the more it appears the vaccines aren't effective long term.


T-Cell is absolutely the best immunity.
Doesn't change the fact that 1. the VAX help certain people survive getting COVID.
Having the VAX doesn't stop T cell response now or later.
They asking people that have already had it because some people are getting COVID multiple times and getting very sick. (why? I don't know) variants??
I am pretty sure in a few years this will look/act like the flu/cold, but we are nowhere near that global immune response yet.
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Aug 28 2021 11:20am
Quote (Crunkt @ Aug 28 2021 08:41am)
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187




Republicans finding a way to actually just kill themselves.

Imagine thinking Dying to COVID is owning the Libs.


Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 28 2021 08:57am)
Technically i'm pretty sure they regret so much in their last moments they probably swap party before dying.
Actually the best deal is to save them after a severe form.


Rapper Who Mocked AntiLockdown Protesters With Violence Dies of Heart Attack 28 Days After Coof Shot
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pONzkE4SpHp7/

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T-Cell is absolutely the best immunity.
Doesn't change the fact that 1. the VAX help certain people survive getting COVID.
Having the VAX doesn't stop T cell response now or later.
They asking people that have already had it because some people are getting COVID multiple times and getting very sick. (why? I don't know) variants??
I am pretty sure in a few years this will look/act like the flu/cold, but we are nowhere near that global immune response yet.


So incredibly low incidents of breakthrough cases among those who've already caught the virus is a reason to get the vaccine, when the incident rate of vaccine breakthrough cases is already higher than those of the people who already caught the virus?

This is starting to sound pretty anti-science, to me.
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Aug 28 2021 11:35am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 10:24am)
So incredibly low incidents of breakthrough cases among those who've already caught the virus is a reason to get the vaccine, when the incident rate of vaccine breakthrough cases is already higher than those of the people who already caught the virus?

This is starting to sound pretty anti-science, to me.


so you ignored half of what I said.
Twisted one point into me saying everyone who's had COVID should get the shot.
NOPE not what I said at all
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Aug 28 2021 11:45am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 28 Aug 2021 10:35)
so you ignored half of what I said.
Twisted one point into me saying everyone who's had COVID should get the shot.
NOPE not what I said at all


I addressed your point exactly the way it deserved the be addressed.

The vast majority of those who've contracted covid were not hospitalized and did not die. Covid is not particularly dangerous to the young and healthy. All the relevant data indicates that catching covid provides lasting resistance against future infection, with breakthrough cases being more minor than the initial infection.

So, once again, why should those who've already caught the virus be vaccinated? It's a simple question, the answer should be very simple.
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