Quote (Djunior @ 21 Apr 2022 17:30)
From day one I've pointed out this whole thing could've been avoided. All the West had to realize is that expansion East from now on was going to be stopped by Russia, they weren't going to put up with it anymore.
But ofc no, everything that has been done has escalated the situation
-Calling Russia's demands non-starters, basically giving them the finger (seems like a long time ago but really it's only a couple months)
-Dogpiling on Russia with economic warfare
-Pumping Ukraine full of weapons
-And now heavy weapon system and tanks etc
Do you believe this is the right strategy and it will convince Putin to stop the war? What do you think huh are you guys really that dense?
Take into consideration other wars before this (Vietnam / Afghanistan) and now with Russia instead of small Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Think about it before making yourself look like a complete fucking fool just like so many others in this thread
1) Do you even know what was this non-starter offer? This was an offer not only about Ukraine, but also to leave eastern NATO countries defenseless. Its literały like making an offer to disassemble Russia.
2) Ukraine is not Russia, Russia cannot forbid them joining western World. Ukraine didnt want to join NATO in the past to keep the good relations with Russia. Now we see where it led them.
3) Russia has a lot of nukes. Nobody sane attacks a country that has that many nukes. So all these talks that Ukraine presence scaries Russia is totally made up.
4) you ask "how do you want to convince Putin to stop war". When dealing with bad people, like murderer, rapist, Hitler etc, you dont convince them to stop by talking nicely to them.
Talking nicely does not always solve the problem.
Russia is basically not much more than a gas station, when you stop giving them money, when you impose sanctions, they have trouble and cannot afford war.
Right now Russia has lost about 40% of their assault army, and have only little reserves to partially rebuild. they are not that far from giving up. Thats how you deal with bad people.
5) if Ukraine were a part of NATO, Russia wouldnt attack them. Russia attacks when they smell weakness. The way to deal with Russia is to stay strong and united, not to surrender to Russia threats.