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Apr 21 2022 12:11pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2022 09:06pm)
If that's all i said i wasnt wrong, factually. but im very rarely short on words, more apt to rant, and ive talked pedo issues with you several times, in both gc and pard.

in any case, is there a reason you're diverting to what i supposedly said (without a link) instead of what i just said here and now? feel free not to answer like im predicting.


since what you said is (without a link), call me when there is anything to answer
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Apr 21 2022 12:13pm
Яка невдячна публіка не оцінила мої вірші :(
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Apr 21 2022 12:22pm
So here's the question that keeps getting argued around, but never really through- how much of the Ukrainian army is actually Nazis?
Pretty much everything I've seen from Mariupol and its surroundings has been from the Azov Battalion, unsurprising as its their base. And it was my understanding going into the war that the Nazi elements were mostly along that eastern border with the donbass, where the fighting has been going on for 8 years. But how about the rest of the country? There aren't really battlefronts in Lviv and Kiev was never truly under siege. How about those engaged in Odessa?

When I look at war updates and footage from on the ground, there's an obvious high presentation of the Nazi elements being broadcast from the pro-Ukrainian side, most of the footage, most of the interviews with troops on the ground, the claims of killing Russians or executing POWs, its Azov every time. That could be explained by Azov being the bulk of the forces, or it could be explained by the bulk of the fighting being engaged on Azov and not elsewhere. It can't be explained by Russian propaganda, as I'm reading Ukrainian propaganda. And its clear as I've said by deduction that the Nazi elements are important enough to the Zelenksy regime that he won't disavow them, and more damningly the US is willing to directly provide arms to Azov, which even Joe Biden and the true believers of the administration can't possibly ignore as politically toxic. Not even the pretense of "moderate pro-democracy militias" that Hillary and Kerry shat it up about in Syria while arming Al Qaeda. If the Ukrainian army aren't mostly Nazis, why are we arming the Nazis?
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Apr 21 2022 12:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2022 12:45pm)
i said condemning pedos leads less pedos to seek therapy, i didnt say i dont personally condemn pedos.

similarly therapists who study those sickos say that the best "treatment" is to give the sickos child sized sex dolls.

i can be against something on a moral level and still be wrong of how that factually plays out. what i think is best doesnt ultimately 100% of the time lead to the best outcome, because sometimes that path makes me feel icky, so im against it.

ive told you all of this before, of course, but u just remember your first impression because thats easier.


Quote (HeLiCaL @ Apr 21 2022 01:11pm)
since what you said is (without a link), call me when there is anything to answer


my stance on what you brought up. but feel free to tell me what i think again.
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Apr 21 2022 12:23pm
Worse than all the war crimes referenced yet incoming: Borodyanka .

A massacre of civilians

According to the journalist team, who went to the watch at the hospital, it is nine bodies of civilians. "Among them, some have traces of torture according to the police, including a 15-year-old girl," says Matthieu Boisseau. The question of war crimes is therefore once again. "It will hardly hear about investigations to confirm, autopsies, testimonies of survivors as well. But there is little room for doubt, it is a massacre that occurred here," concludes the journalist.

Only on the path to hospital ...

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/europe/manifestations-en-ukraine/guerre-en-ukraine-nouveau-massacre-de-civils-a-borodyanka_5094115.html
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/europe/manifestations-en-ukraine/reportage-guerre-en-ukraine-a-borodyanka-le-nettoyage-debute-dans-la-ville-martyre-apres-le-depart-de-l-armee-russe_5085352.html

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 21 2022 12:26pm
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Apr 21 2022 12:25pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2022 09:22pm)
my stance on what you brought up. but feel free to tell me what i think again.


really need links of what a "LULbertarian" identity politics spewer that annoits & excuses blatant anti-white racism as "comedy" considers extreme
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Apr 21 2022 12:29pm
Quote (Djunior @ 21 Apr 2022 17:30)
From day one I've pointed out this whole thing could've been avoided. All the West had to realize is that expansion East from now on was going to be stopped by Russia, they weren't going to put up with it anymore.
But ofc no, everything that has been done has escalated the situation

-Calling Russia's demands non-starters, basically giving them the finger (seems like a long time ago but really it's only a couple months)
-Dogpiling on Russia with economic warfare
-Pumping Ukraine full of weapons
-And now heavy weapon system and tanks etc

Do you believe this is the right strategy and it will convince Putin to stop the war? What do you think huh are you guys really that dense?

Take into consideration other wars before this (Vietnam / Afghanistan) and now with Russia instead of small Vietnam or Afghanistan.

Think about it before making yourself look like a complete fucking fool just like so many others in this thread


1) Do you even know what was this non-starter offer? This was an offer not only about Ukraine, but also to leave eastern NATO countries defenseless. Its literały like making an offer to disassemble Russia.
2) Ukraine is not Russia, Russia cannot forbid them joining western World. Ukraine didnt want to join NATO in the past to keep the good relations with Russia. Now we see where it led them.
3) Russia has a lot of nukes. Nobody sane attacks a country that has that many nukes. So all these talks that Ukraine presence scaries Russia is totally made up.
4) you ask "how do you want to convince Putin to stop war". When dealing with bad people, like murderer, rapist, Hitler etc, you dont convince them to stop by talking nicely to them.
Talking nicely does not always solve the problem.
Russia is basically not much more than a gas station, when you stop giving them money, when you impose sanctions, they have trouble and cannot afford war.
Right now Russia has lost about 40% of their assault army, and have only little reserves to partially rebuild. they are not that far from giving up. Thats how you deal with bad people.
5) if Ukraine were a part of NATO, Russia wouldnt attack them. Russia attacks when they smell weakness. The way to deal with Russia is to stay strong and united, not to surrender to Russia threats.
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Apr 21 2022 12:32pm
When Russia loses equipment, they can't build any more as their supply chains are fucked. When Ukraine loses equipment, my boy Boris sends them another 2,000 NLAWs

After the war, we'll recoup the cost of military aid by using Russia's $300bn frozen reserves. The rest can be used to construct a huge shrine to Azov Battalion and anyone else who may have fought for Ukraine in the war
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Apr 21 2022 12:34pm
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 21 2022 09:29pm)
1) Do you even know what was this non-starter offer? This was an offer not only about Ukraine, but also to leave eastern NATO countries defenseless. Its literały like making an offer to disassemble Russia.
2) Ukraine is not Russia, Russia cannot forbid them joining western World. Ukraine didnt want to join NATO in the past to keep the good relations with Russia. Now we see where it led them.
3) Russia has a lot of nukes. Nobody sane attacks a country that has that many nukes. So all these talks that Ukraine presence scaries Russia is totally made up.
4) you ask "how do you want to convince Putin to stop war". When dealing with bad people, like murderer, rapist, Hitler etc, you dont convince them to stop by talking nicely to them.
Talking nicely does not always solve the problem.
Russia is basically not much more than a gas station, when you stop giving them money, when you impose sanctions, they have trouble and cannot afford war.
Right now Russia has lost about 40% of their assault army, and have only little reserves to partially rebuild. they are not that far from giving up. Thats how you deal with bad people.
5) if Ukraine were a part of NATO, Russia wouldnt attack them. Russia attacks when they smell weakness. The way to deal with Russia is to stay strong and united, not to surrender to Russia threats.


if USA wouldn't have backed & coached a coup in Ukraine, Russia would not attack them
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Apr 21 2022 12:38pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 21 2022 01:04pm)
Yeah and for every Russian that sacrifices their life on the battlefield there are 5 dead Ukrainians. Not to mention Russia has more than 10 times the PoW's...

Hmm, funny how that works.

I'm sure these losses for Ukraine are totally sustainable.


More talking out your ass with no sources?

Yeah, that's what I thought.
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