It's not even a debate, they dodge simple questions.

the CDC is supposed to have cleaned all that up. even so their is still alot of fukery going on.

look through it tell me what you find. its interesting on a few levels
COVID-19 Mortality Overview
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/mortality-overview.htm

its one of my hammers fishy sauce. your a science guy arnt you?
COVID-19 Mortality Overview
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/mortality-overview.htm

let me save u the time. an order of magnitude by percent more people die or get seriously ill as a result of getting covid compared to the vaccine. this is true in all age brackets, both sexes, and in all states of health.

Afaik, this is not true for very young age groups. For those younger than 16 or 18, complications from covid are so rare that the rarity is on the same level as that of the (also extremely rare) severe vaccination effects like myocarditis. So for the very young, the risk-benefit analysis is not as clear-cut as you pretend it is.


But yeah, everyone above 25 or so should 100% get vaccinated; everyone above 16 is most likely better off getting the jab too.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 27 2021 01:18pm

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

my body >>> big pharma

meh bullchit you saw some of those CDC numbers and bailed for mere assertion fallacy.

not correct from what i am reading:



this misinformation is understandable, myocarditis red flags were raised after the initial reports of 16-24 year old males were seeing reports of 4-5x the expected rate of myocarditis. however when controlled against infection rates it's still far lower, even if both are rare. and myocarditis among 16-24 year old males in both infection and vaccination is the most unexpected result doctors are reporting afaik. so its the most extreme case to analyze.



https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

above sourced.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 27 2021 01:31pm

🚨FORMER NAVAL PHYSICIAN DISCLOSED SOME DISTURBING NUMBERS FROM VACCINATION OF SERVICEMEN🚨
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gvx7BHg0fPpx/

Doctor explains how many COVID shots you need
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iXU9I441XyBh/
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

This post was edited by TiStuff on Aug 27 2021 03:13pm

Hmm, taking the rate from the first 12 months of the pandemic is a bit problematic. During that timeframe, particularly the first wave in the spring of 2020, we were not testing enough and thus had a much bigger underreporting of covid cases than later. It's likely that the dark figure of cases was higher by a factor of at least 2-3, and not inconceivable that the factor could be as high as 4-6. So yes, I'll concede that the myocarditis risk from infection is probably still higher for the 12-17 age group than from vaccination, but it's probably fairly close. The difference definitely does not qualify for the standard you initially set out, namely that "covid risk is higher by an order of magnitude for all age brackets".

For the 0-12 year olds, the two risks might indeed be on the same level. We'll have to wait and see what the approval studies for the kids below 12 years will show in this regard. They are slated to be published some time in September iirc.