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Quote (IFAPTOBAALRUNS @ Apr 5 2021 06:25pm)
He was fueled by the bystanders hatred, which was satisfying for him to continue to knee because he knew in the back of his mind, he was getting back at them.

100% an ego play. Which is quite an expensive one, hope it's a min of 20 years


You mean his hatred for the bystanders?
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You mean his hatred for the bystanders?


Bystanders were angry, which in turn, caused him to become more angry at them
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Quote (IFAPTOBAALRUNS @ Apr 5 2021 08:04pm)
Bystanders were angry, which in turn, caused him to become more angry at them


The first was a black man pleading to Floyd to stop resisting, could say he was trying to help. Second one was a fire dept emt lady pleading that Floyd needs medical attention. Most of the rest I've seen testify had similar interactions. Over the 7 minute 46 seconds the crowd grows but the majority continue to simply plead for Floyd to get medical attention. Why do you say the bystanders were angry? I get they were angry near the end of the knee hold, but initially is not the case from what's been presented.

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The first was a black man pleading to Floyd to stop resisting. Second one was a fire dept emt lady pleading that Floyd needs medical attention. Most of the rest I've seen testify had similar interactions. Over the 7 minute 46 seconds the crowd grows but the majority continue to simply plead for Floyd to get medical attention. Why do you say the bystanders were angry? I get they were angry near the end of the knee hold, but initially is not the case from what's been presented.


Well, I can't seem to find the full video on Liveleak (might have been removed), but from what I remember, the bystanders saying some nasty shit to the officer for several minutes.

I'm not saying that's a valid excuse for why Chauvin continued, I'm just pin pointing, that's what I believe is why he continued for so long.

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The first was a black man pleading to Floyd to stop resisting, could say he was trying to help. Second one was a fire dept emt lady pleading that Floyd needs medical attention. Most of the rest I've seen testify had similar interactions. Over the 7 minute 46 seconds the crowd grows but the majority continue to simply plead for Floyd to get medical attention. Why do you say the bystanders were angry? I get they were angry near the end of the knee hold, but initially is not the case from what's been presented.


It's difficult to respond to this in a text format. The emotions at the scene evolved over time. Any claim about the level of anger being high or low would be true at some point.

The unnamed 17 year old girl who testified early on said that she thought Chauvin kneeled harder into Floyd's neck "in response to the energy of the crowd". This response was stricken because it called for speculation, but it was telling nonetheless. Certainly by the time the paramedics arise, the tension at the scene made it a hostile place. And it's not a switch was suddenly flipped right at the end where the crowd went from "nonhostile to hostile". Things changed incrementally. Each bystander said different things at different times. But none of the witnesses have said anything that refuted the claim that the officers were affected by the energy of the crowd.
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Alls I know is that in my city people cheer on fentanyl killing the annoying antisocial street urchins and we live in Canada!
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I see all these posts about; Blah blah didn't want to get sued by allowing aid etc.
Am I missing something or does this not apply?
The Good Samaritan Act is a law which protects any volunteer giving aid to an injured person in an emergency situation. The Good Samaritan Law offers legal protection in the form of exemption from lawsuits and liability, acting as a safeguard to those who help another in a real emergency, life-or-death situation.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 6 2021 07:03am)
I see all these posts about; Blah blah didn't want to get sued by allowing aid etc.
Am I missing something or does this not apply?
The Good Samaritan Act is a law which protects any volunteer giving aid to an injured person in an emergency situation. The Good Samaritan Law offers legal protection in the form of exemption from lawsuits and liability, acting as a safeguard to those who help another in a real emergency, life-or-death situation.


A good samaritan cannot interfere with a police officer and their duties.
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A good samaritan cannot interfere with a police officer and their duties.


So if he would of let somebody from the crowd or others administer aid. He would of been punished?
the subject is Chauvin denied the allowance of aid over a lawsuit fear. Curios if what you are saying applies to this.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 6 2021 07:03am)
I see all these posts about; Blah blah didn't want to get sued by allowing aid etc.
Am I missing something or does this not apply?
The Good Samaritan Act is a law which protects any volunteer giving aid to an injured person in an emergency situation. The Good Samaritan Law offers legal protection in the form of exemption from lawsuits and liability, acting as a safeguard to those who help another in a real emergency, life-or-death situation.


Quote (RedFromWinter @ Apr 6 2021 07:42am)
A good samaritan cannot interfere with a police officer and their duties.


good samaritan laws do protect police officers who act in good faith to try and save someone, but civil suits can still be lodged against them or more likely the department afaik.

in any case the "i didnt want to get sued" excuse is flimsy at best, someone exercising that level of foresight also shouldnt stay on top of an unconscious body for 4 minutes and have to be told to get off by paramedics. Had Chauvin simply gotten off Floyd once he went limp and then froze, refused to give aid, we'd likely not see a trial now.

the riots would have still happened, because prior to the autopsy report with comments people would have assumed Chauvin choked floyd to death then failed to revive him. but afterwards it would have been clear Floyd died of an overdose and had not windpipe bruising to suggest Chauvin impeded his breathing, and then let him try and recover once he passed out.
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