Quote (fender @ Apr 8 2020 09:32am)

as much as petty me would have loved to see him torture the DNC some more and expose their bias and crookery, this is probably the right decision, given how little both parties care for the physical well-being of their voters these days. the wisconsin primary should go down in history as a textbook example of how the corrupt political establishment is literally willing to let people die, in order to secure their power - but of course it won't, not in america.

and once again, everyone will hate him for it, the extreme left for not fighting on, the establishment dems for not giving up earlier (you can be sure they will blame bernie again, if their shitty candidate loses against the worst president in history, quote me on this) - and the trump cult will attempt to shame bernie's understandably disappointed supporters into not voting for biden or cuomo, in order to secure the objectively worst possible outcome: four more years of self-dealing, division, idiocy, bigotry, and extreme incompetence.

looks like america simply doesn't deserve a principled, honest candidate, who would put voters above donors. to be fair, someone with integrity and values would not really be a true 'representative' of the majority of the country. in that regard, trump is admittedly a far more fitting image of what america really is.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 8 2020 02:23pm)

With this going on and tRUmp firing all IG that don't agree with him.
If this was happening in XXXX country, we would be talking about how to implement a democracy in a foreign county... Yes we would be talking about a political takeover of any country that was being governed as we are right now.

"whats next, gonna end up like XXXXX?"

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 8 2020 12:27pm)

i mean if they had oil maybe.

there's 20 countries being run 10x worse right now that we're not doing shit to.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 8 2020 02:29pm)

we have oil.. One of the largest producers so my analogy still stands

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 8 2020 02:33pm)

so why aren't we invading Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Honduras, Philippines, etc

your analogy is silly. we dont invade places to protect their democracy, we dont give a fuck how anyone governs their own people unless it affects us or we can get rich by killing them. the idea that we invade people for simply being authoritarian is about as bias confirming of an idea as ive heard all week.

Quote (djman72 @ Apr 8 2020 02:50pm)

US FOREIGN POLICY

"WE CARE"

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 8 2020 02:52pm)

i wonder how many steps it takes to get from "Trump hates democracy" to "Trump voters shouldn't be allowed to vote" with that guy.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 8 2020 12:33pm)

so why aren't we invading Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Honduras, Philippines, etc

your analogy is silly. we don't invade places to protect their democracy, we dont give a fuck how anyone governs their own people unless it affects us or we can get rich by killing them. the idea that we invade people for simply being authoritarian is about as bias confirming of an idea as ive heard all week.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 8 2020 03:02pm)

Venezuela-- We talk about bringing them our from of government all the time
Iran-We did invade them.. once already lol
Qatar-Too afraid to lose oil relations (some people think we should stop having relations with them due to their culture)
SA-Same
Honduras- Announced in 2015, the Strategy is a bipartisan, multiyear effort promoting institutional reforms and addressing development challenges
Philippines- Too poor so we don't care.
I never said invade, I said push our political agenda (US style democracY)
It's pretty awesome to compare how the US governs and you pick these as my XXXX countries..
kind of proves my point.