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Jun 24 2022 11:07am
Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Jun 2022 13:03)
the only way to prevent it would have been to point out it was coming during the 2016 election cycle, instead they focused on pu$$y grabbing and comments about minorities. the idea that we may get a racist president was the boogeyman, not the judges he'd usher in that would change the landscape of the american legal system for decades.

it’s not like Trump did a “switcheroo” with the judges he would nominate. IIRC he had a robust list of potential nominees during the campaign that was readily available to everyone.

but yeah as you mentioned the media, left, and national-socliast cult members like fender and skinned focused on leaked access hollywood tapes from a decade prior. not the brightest bunch there.
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Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2022 06:45pm)
i think of it the other way around, as in dishonest people suggesting that just because something hasn't been the central point of media attention for what they arbitrarily decide would have been the appropriate time, doesn't mean it was entirely "missed" (which was your claim: "they missed that he appointed judges like wild fire"). that's just silly and disingenuous imo - a cheap attempt at suggesting this could somehow have been prevented if only it had gotten more attention, which is absurd...



you whooshed hard on this, ampoo. obviously you still hate the actual taliban, simply because they are muslim, but your extremist values are very much the same - just a different colour.



ridiculous really, santara keeps running to the mods, crying about me posting things he himself confirmed in this very sub, lol. shows how much you people love censorship and oppose free speech really. moderation here is a joke tbh...


hard work, nuclear family of man and woman, basic decency, not sexualising children in schools

when that is extremist.....may the lord have mercy on you
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Jun 24 2022 11:17am
to be clear this reality fell into the laps of conservatives and there's no way in hell Mitch McConnel of 10 years ago would have ever dreamed the scotus he has now was possible. RBG should have stepped down during Obama's mandate period.
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Jun 24 2022 11:17am
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hard work, nuclear family of man and woman, basic decency, not sexualising children in schools

when that is extremist.....may the lord have mercy on you


this
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Jun 24 2022 11:18am
Quote (Landmine @ Jun 24 2022 01:05pm)
It’s a good thing there was a woman’s voice to represent.


Q theocratic voice present.

I hope they pass laws saying the police have to go through your wife's medicine cabinet.
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Jun 24 2022 11:19am
Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Jun 2022 19:03)
the only way to prevent it would have been to point out it was coming during the 2016 election cycle, instead they focused on pu$$y grabbing and comments about minorities. the idea that we may get a racist president was the boogeyman, not the judges he'd usher in that would change the landscape of the american legal system for decades.


come on, you don't believe for a second that hillary focusing on the potential judicial appointments trump will make would have been a winning strategy in 2016, lol. you know as well as me that it's a very unsexy topic that would have bored the superficial american public to death. even with the massive benefit of hindsight (a rapist making it through confirmation hearings, rbg dying, and all that) there is no way you actually convinced yourself this would have worked for her...

i share your criticism of msm's love for headline-grabbing bullshit (although trump's unapologetic racist dogwhistling was certainly more than just a minor quirk), and democrats' repeated strategic failures and miscalculations, but that doesn't mean that this was preventable by merely a media focus shift - not that i find the general approach of blaming the side who didn't prevent it over the side who actively caused the issue particularly convincing or intellectually honest to begin with... and it sure as hell doesn't support your initial claim that it was "missed" how many judges he appointed.
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Jun 24 2022 11:24am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 24 Jun 2022 19:07)
hard work, nuclear family of man and woman, basic decency, not sexualising children in schools

when that is extremist.....may the lord have mercy on you


eroding of women's right, open hostility towards the lgbtq+ community, censoring of free speech, teaching of religious bs over science, no separation of church and state, discrimination of other religions... certainly are extremist to any "decent" human being though.

nice taliban "values" you have there...
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Jun 24 2022 11:24am
Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2022 12:19pm)
come on, you don't believe for a second that hillary focusing on the potential judicial appointments trump will make would have been a winning strategy in 2016, lol. you know as well as me that it's a very unsexy topic that would have bored the superficial american public to death. even with the massive benefit of hindsight (a rapist making it through confirmation hearings, rbg dying, and all that) there is no way you actually convinced yourself this would have worked for her...

i share your criticism of msm's love for headline-grabbing bullshit (although trump's unapologetic racist dogwhistling was certainly more than just a minor quirk), and democrats' repeated strategic failures and miscalculations, but that doesn't mean that this was preventable by merely a media focus shift - not that i find the general approach of blaming the side who didn't prevent it over the side who actively caused the issue particularly convincing or intellectually honest to begin with... and it sure as hell doesn't support your initial claim that it was "missed" how many judges he appointed.


the strategy she chose, focus on sexism and racism, lost. and she basically did a victory tour for months before losing. maybe focusing on reality isn't sexy, nor a winning strategy, but if she called out that abortion dies with trump appointments maybe it would have been a better outcome.

as to my claim i believe most americans are unaware or only tangentially aware of the level of judges trump appointed outside of the scotus, and are only aware of the Kavanaugh appointment due to rape allegations. whereas many other events of the trump presidency are crystal clear in their memories. that is what i meant by "missed". it's barely a footnote in their recollection. this is due to how unsexy the topic is, and how boring most people find civics in general. a major fault of the american people and an issue we continue to struggle with, one im sure isn't unique to the USA in any way.
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Jun 24 2022 11:27am
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Wonder how many of these people are real Americans (White people)


You'd be surprised. Plebbit is full of em.
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Jun 24 2022 11:35am
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the strategy she chose, focus on sexism and racism, lost. and she basically did a victory tour for months before losing. maybe focusing on reality isn't sexy, nor a winning strategy, but if she called out that abortion dies with trump appointments maybe it would have been a better outcome.

as to my claim i believe most americans are unaware or only tangentially aware of the level of judges trump appointed outside of the scotus, and are only aware of the Kavanaugh appointment due to rape allegations. whereas many other events of the trump presidency are crystal clear in their memories. that is what i meant by "missed". it's barely a footnote in their recollection. this is due to how unsexy the topic is, and how boring most people find civics in general. a major fault of the american people and an issue we continue to struggle with, one im sure isn't unique to the USA in any way.


well, he leaned into racism and "won" (the EC despite losing the popular vote by millions), so again, it's a bit silly to suggest it's a topic that doesn't actually concern america, and it's not like she hasn't warned about his judicial appointments and the lasting effect even a one-term presidency of his might have:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WU16O

so again, i think it's kind of silly to blame the people that at least TRIED to stop this over the people who actively supported and created this. just "centrist" things i guess?
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