Quote (Skinned @ 2 Feb 2020 15:18)

My favorite philosopher Nietzsche said man is a bridge. The only bridge between animal and overman. In order to achieve this purpose we will have to re approach our values and reject the slave values that have dominated our culture and embraced a master values that lead to further evolution. The slave values are the values of Christianity which emphasize pity humbleness forgiveness and weakness. He says we built a political system around these things that keeps weak humans alive. Over time this weakens the human race significantly and stalls evolution, Which is driven by the development of necessary traits needed to survive. Nietzsche argues that if we artificially keep week people alive the human race was stopped developing traits that make them strong. In order to do this we must embrace master of morality with an emphasis on strength and beauty and pride.

If you historically traced the beginning of the prominence of slave morality it coincides with the rise of Christianity. Nietzsche theorizes that the early christians took the values of their masters (The Romans) which were bad for them and created the concept of evil to describe them, which hadn't existed in ancient Greek or Indian cultures (Nietzsche was a philologist). Resentimentation of morality is what he calls the inversion of morals where strength and pride go from not good to bad, but good to evil. Now they are not just different like the Greeks believed, even bad... The Greeks believed an enemy could be your foil and a great enemy was necessary to have a great character... Christians framed what was different from then or bad to them as evil that must be killed and destroyed. I was never one for divine command theory morality myself.

Nietzsche said the barbarians never committed suicide, and questions why modern Europeans are so afflicted by it.

Sigmund Freud was probably the most famous nietzschean, more famous than Nietzsche himself.... He continued a lot of his work and it was Sigmund that said that all neuroses and psychoses are a product of the social contract And man having to live calculatedly instead of naturally. He wondered why barbarians didn't kill themselves but modern man did to.

Quote (ThatAlex @ Feb 2 2020 02:45pm)

For perspective on the Coronavirus:

In the US, since October 2019, the flu has caused:
-19,000,000 – 26,000,000 illnesses
-180,000 – 310,000 hospitalizations
-10,000 – 25,000 deaths

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Quote (ThatAlex @ Feb 2 2020 07:45pm)

For perspective on the Coronavirus:

In the US, since October 2019, the flu has caused:
-19,000,000 – 26,000,000 illnesses
-180,000 – 310,000 hospitalizations
-10,000 – 25,000 deaths

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Quote (dro94 @ 2 Feb 2020 13:01)

The perspective I'm getting is that's roughly a 0.05% mortality rate, which is about 50x less deadly than Coronavirus. The incidences of hospitalisation following infection are much higher with Coronavirus so the economic impact could be pretty bad if it spreads further.

Quote (ThatAlex @ Feb 2 2020 08:15pm)

That's true, but my point is the average American is at much higher risk of acquiring and developing complications from the influenza virus simply due to its domestic presence and current spread in the country. The elderly, those with immunodeficiencies, and those with respiratory disease are at far greater risk for negative health outcomes from either virus.

Quote (dro94 @ 2 Feb 2020 13:57)

Saying there's a higher chance of getting flu than Coronavirus right now is like arguing that the sky is blue. What concerns people is the potential for the virus to spread rapidly across their country, which is entirely rational despite its low likelihood of occurrence.

Quote (FirstClassFunk @ Feb 2 2020 02:56pm)

whats the socio economic conditions of these people? guarantee these people are generally poorer aka fault in the US medical system which allows people with money to stay healthy while discriminating agnst low income familes.

Quote (ThatAlex @ 2 Feb 2020 23:06)

My point is the average American should not be worried about the Coronavirus any more right now than the do the influenza virus. Its current domestic prevalence outweighs the increased morbidity and mortality of this strain of coronavirus for Amercicans. The potential global economic effects of the Coronavirus are another matter.