Wrong. If you are not being arrested you can terminate the interaction. It may still result in a ticket, but you have the right to terminate the interaction.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 23 2017 03:29pm

Wait a minute.... just how did that arm get there and stay there? Because it wasn't trapped. The officer being in danger is due to one reason and one reason only - trying to hold onto a moving car. That's retarded.



No, you can be detained, questioned, and released. Being under arrest is the step past detention.

This post was edited by Santara on Jun 23 2017 03:29pm

Just shows any excuse works.

Yeah, I realized that I originally got that information from a libertarian website, so it likely wasn't credible so I made an edit.

LMAO, and yet here I am disagreeing.

@ your edit:



That is also incorrect. If you are being detained, it is a crime to leave. You have to sit there and tell him you will not answer any questions, etc, but once informed you're being detained, you cannot legally leave until informed you're no longer being detained.

Or....you get to shoot them for dismissing you?

What if you're in an area where you aren't sworn in, like Ray Tensing, who was a University of Cincinnati cop a couple neighborhoods away from where the university he was neglecting to patrol at the time of the homicide?

Isn't it you who keeps saying Libertarians aren't a monolith? Either way I'm hardly a lawyer, and I recognize I was misinformed.

Anyway, regardless it's retarded hackery to say he put the officer in danger.

At least that guy isnt a cop anymore, not qualified at all.

Seems like the next logical step, right? YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!

For real though, and I can't speak for Ohio, but I know in Minnesota, if an officer follows you from his jurisdiction, it is still legal for him to stop, detain and even arrest you outside his jurisdiction. It is also legal that if he is passing through a jurisdiction not his own, but is operating in his official capacity (like driving to the county courthouse to testify), and he witnesses a crime, he can legally act on the suspect.



And I agree. The officer put himself in danger, not anyone else.

You should really try that some time. Try driving away from the officer and see what happens



The officer put himself in danger by stopping him in the first place. Traffic stops are the most dangerous routine police duty, killing more officers than domestic situations or disturbance calls.
Its not for the court to decide whether its "good judgment" for the cop to reach in through the window. The moment the driver tried to shut his door and take off with a cop's arm in his window, he was putting the cop's life in immediate jeopardy.
Try a hypothetical scenario. Say that a policeman is directing traffic in the street and sees something illegal in a vehicle and orders them to stop. When the driver doesn't comply, the cop stands in front of the car and holds out his arm. The driver hits the gas and tries to run him down, and the cop opens fire and kills the driver. Is it the cop's fault that he made a judgment call of "standing in front of the vehicle" which put him in harm's way? Well in this case, it was his arm's way harm's way, at risk of being dragged and/or run over.