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I would argue that the Nato alliance is stronger now then ever as a result of this conflict. pretty sure Nato would have that view as well.


All it would take is a Le Pen victory this weekend to shake it a good bit.

Maybe not likely, but we'll see.

In reality though there are several NATO members whom aren't very keen on the idea of going to nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine.
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I would argue that the Nato alliance is stronger now then ever as a result of this conflict. pretty sure Nato would have that view as well.

Yes and no, Europeans noticed relying on the US alone is wrong, they're going to arm their armies and make them combat ready again = US influence on Europe will decrease then disappear. Again, USA loses influence.
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The fuck are you on about now?


The hundred-year+ record of Russia doing this shit in other countries. Many of them have living witnesses, too.
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The hundred-year+ record of Russia doing this shit in other countries. Many of them have living witnesses, too.


I think Ofthevoid has already covered how stupid and hypocritical saying something like this is already, so feel free to go back and review his posts.
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Russian and DPR forces are taking ground:

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On southern front #RussianArmy & #DPR forces took control over the villages of Makarivka, Blahodatne, Storozheve, Rivnopil & Novosilka thus cutting western supply routes towards Velyka Novosilka/Велика Новосілка.
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I think Ofthevoid has already covered how stupid and hypocritical saying something like this is already, so feel free to go back and review his posts.


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Ok
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It's not hypocritical when you can point to a pattern of behavior, which dates back over 100 years, of Russia doing the same things you're denying they're doing in Ukraine now. It's a tactic commonly used in courts of law by prosecutors to establish a pattern of behavior by a defendant.

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It's not hypocritical when you can point to a pattern of behavior, which dates back over 100 years, of Russia doing the same things you're denying they're doing in Ukraine now. It's a tactic commonly used in courts of law by prosecutors to establish a pattern of behavior by a defendant.



It's not hypocritical when you can point to a pattern of behavior, which dates back over 100 years, of the United States doing the same things you're denying they're doing in Ukraine now. It's a tactic commonly used in courts of law by prosecutors to establish a pattern of behavior by a defendant.
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It's not hypocritical when you can point to a pattern of behavior, which dates back over 100 years, of the United States doing the same things you're denying they're doing in Ukraine now. It's a tactic commonly used in courts of law by prosecutors to establish a pattern of behavior by a defendant.


But I'm not arguing that the United States hasn't done the things it did, nor condoning it. You, on the other hand.....
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