Quote (Skinned @ Apr 21 2022 01:11pm)
His goal was obviously regime change in Kiev, his forces are leaving central Ukraine, and even intended puppet collaborating politician is I custody.
The coup failed.
Putin will just have to keep robbing Russians and brown people.
I think Putin could have got his regime change via military means but that he would lose the hearts and minds if he went total gloves off. This eventuality to my mind would have been the only thing which stopped a plan for regime change. I stated previously that regime change was probably the best outcome for Putin but I also stated that I would hesitate to say that he obviously wanted to regime change. it makes no sense to stop when he did unless the plan was never to regime change. I think i said about 150 pages ago that it look more like he wanted to flex, scare, and then achieve his goal. anyway, regardless of whether he wanted to regime change or not (accepting regime change is the better course) ultimately it looks like the situation has in the round drastically spiraled out of control (of the russians) since the day of the invasion.
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in terms of hypocrites, I would counter that several users have repeatedly voiced their concerns, misgivings and condemnation of other conflicts wherein western powers (read: america) has taken part. Yes this is a western forum and yes several users are very vocal in here. I would be more of the view that this forum is a far better forum then listening to mainstream western media which is providing little or no context or balanced view.
This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 21 2022 06:22am