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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 21 Apr 2022 01:29)
Well if they do, they're not letting them leave. Russia opened several humanitarian corridors around Azovstal which they flat out REFUSED to take advantage of.

That would mean if there are civilians, Azov is keeping them as human shields.

How fucking pathetic. They are true cowards. And they seriously think NATO will intervene to rescue them from Azovstal? They are out of their fucking minds and probably hopped up on drugs.


Quote (ofthevoid @ 20 Apr 2022 23:35)
Good portion of Nazis who are smart enough to know that starving to death is easier than going into the hands of the Chechens and Russians who will have a field day torturing them.

They really should just let the civilians go though


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 20 Apr 2022 23:37)
They won't let civilians go.



Quote (ferdia @ 20 Apr 2022 23:47)
shipped off to russia? wait, you mean that they dont want to let the civilians go as its "safer" for them (lets call them the "defenders") against the russian options?




Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 20 Apr 2022 23:53)
I think the defenders in the steel mill will not let the civilians go if they are Azov fighters.


My previous thoughts.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 20 2022 11:39am
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ 20 Apr 2022 11:00)
or can label them as "enemy combatants" like Obama did for the 90% of his drone strike murders that were civilians



Thanks for your posts, friend.
I hope you have a great day.

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I remain doubtful there are actually civilians in Azovstal. Azov only released a few questionable pictures.

Furthermore, they usually just torture & execute any civilians they can get their hands on anyway. I doubt they have the restraint to keep them alive.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 21 Apr 2022 02:07)
I remain doubtful there are actually civilians in Azovstal. Azov only released a few questionable pictures.

Furthermore, they usually just torture & execute any civilians they can get their hands on anyway. I doubt they have the restraint to keep them alive.


There are definitely civilians without a doubt , you can agree to disagree.
There is about 434,000 strong population in Mariupol prewar. About 100,000 plus left now.
Not everyone has the ability to leave when they are being surrounded.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 20 Apr 2022 18:07)
I remain doubtful there are actually civilians in Azovstal. Azov only released a few questionable pictures.

Furthermore, they usually just torture & execute any civilians they can get their hands on anyway. I doubt they have the restraint to keep them alive.


Can't wait the new weapons to arrive in Ukraine, isnt it ?
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Russia tests 200 ton ICBM capable of striking anywhere on earth while evading missile defense systems. Sarmat is capable of delivering 10-15 nuclear warheads

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-tests-new-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-2022-04-20/

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 20 2022 12:14pm)
There are definitely civilians without a doubt , you can agree to disagree.
There is about 434,000 strong population in Mariupol prewar. About 100,000 plus left now.
Not everyone has the ability to leave when they are being surrounded.


There are civilians *around* azovstal, trapped in basements in buildings directly adjacent to the factory. Some of these have evacuated, sure.

But I remain skeptical Azov has managed to keep civilians with them inside Azovstal. Maybe they did, but even if so, probably not very many.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 20 2022 11:18am)
Can't wait the new weapons to arrive in Ukraine, isnt it ?


Dude is English your first language? Serious question.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 21 Apr 2022 02:29)
There are civilians *around* azovstal, trapped in basements in buildings directly adjacent to the factory. Some of these have evacuated, sure.

But I remain skeptical Azov has managed to keep civilians with them inside Azovstal. Maybe they did, but even if so, probably not very many.


The Azov will keep more than enough with them. If you can try to understand my point of view , you will know that it is a strategic option.
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