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May 29 2020 06:51am
Quote (Skinned @ May 29 2020 07:47am)
Do you think that in the future people will look at our criminal Justice system now and talk about it the same way that we talk about the Catholic Church selling indulgences to the wealthy?


People already talk about that, they are just considered nuts or not trust worthy. The Fresh Out series with Big Herc split ya wig gives some insider details.

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May 29 2020 06:52am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 29 2020 02:51pm)
tbh just be better buddy. there have been over 400 businesses looted. countless injuries, family homes burned to the ground, and now the two main grocery stores in a food dessert will close for a while and maybe just leave.

there are peaceful demonstrations, see my posts. i called looters bad apples, i praised BLM members shaming looters, etc. doesnt change that the damage her isnt peanuts, its colossal. blacktwitter is going wild saying this is some LA riots type damage and they're "proud" and "impressed".

a single bad apple spoils the barrel, this is more than 1 bad apple. were watching a barrel fall to rot. just dont downplay damage while accusing other of downplaying peace. both are happening, and ones a big problem. not "just a target".


Same could easily be said for the entire PD.
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May 29 2020 06:56am
stop breaking the law ffs
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May 29 2020 07:01am
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Same could easily be said for the entire PD.


yes, this does make the MPD look awful. and they have a lot of atoning to do for letting this guy in their ranks. they've already started to atone via firing him and those connected, charges likely pending.

still 1 BAD cop + 3 bad cops with 800 sworn officers compared to 500-1000 good protesters with 1000 bad protesters. i watched the live streams, there were legit hundreds to thousands of people burning anything made of wood.
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May 29 2020 07:07am
Quote (Skinned @ May 29 2020 05:45am)
I imagine if you're listening to the scanners you're listening to the police channels. You're listening to people communicate that are at least banally evil enough that they can kill a dude with their hands in their pockets and not really notice.


I love how you're claiming that every officer is now guilty for the actions of the 4 (who were fired prior to the riots) who murdered Floyd. Good stuff.

If you apply that same reasoning to "A black man assassinated several cops in Dallas, therefore black men are all animals who assassinate cops" you'd be making the most racist statement you possibly could.

It doesn't take more than a casual glance to know you should reign it back a bit.

Quote (balrog66 @ May 29 2020 05:52am)
Same could easily be said for the entire PD.


Another generalization that would be considered a grave "ist" or "ism" were it applied to any other group. People aren't apples. The goal with Police Departments is the same as with high crime neighborhoods. Prosecute the criminals, improve the entire scenario. When you simply condemn the entire precinct, or the entire neighborhood, for the actions of "a few bad apples" you've just justified a horrific level of discrimination. :)
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May 29 2020 07:11am
Quote (balrog66 @ May 29 2020 07:59am)
To me this news of arrested reporters is far more significant.

Aren't conservatives supposed to care about the constitution?


Is it? They were arrested for "not getting out of the way" and then quickly released. The reporter described the encounter as "cordial".

I'm sure we'll learn more, but this hardly seems to be a case of police actively suppressing news coverage.
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May 29 2020 07:12am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 29 2020 11:07pm)
I love how you're claiming that every officer is now guilty for the actions of the 4 (who were fired prior to the riots) who murdered Floyd. Good stuff.

If you apply that same reasoning to "A black man assassinated several cops in Dallas, therefore black men are all animals who assassinate cops" you'd be making the most racist statement you possibly could.

It doesn't take more than a casual glance to know you should reign it back a bit.



Another generalization that would be considered a grave "ist" or "ism" were it applied to any other group. People aren't apples. The goal with Police Departments is the same as with high crime neighborhoods. Prosecute the criminals, improve the entire scenario. When you simply condemn the entire precinct, or the entire neighborhood, for the actions of "a few bad apples" you've just justified a horrific level of discrimination. :)


100% of the four police at the scene were complicit in this murder that's a pretty decent sample size for the department.
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May 29 2020 07:15am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 29 2020 08:12am)
100% of the four police at the scene were complicit in this murder that's a pretty decent sample size for the department.


4/800 isnt a decent sample size of anything tho lol.
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May 29 2020 07:16am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 29 2020 06:12am)
100% of the four police at the scene were complicit in this murder that's a pretty decent sample size for the department.


They aren't part of the department any longer. And there are some 800-odd sworn officers there. To take the actions of less than 1% of the department who were promptly removed from the department and claim that they're representative of the department seems rather [insert ist or ism here], don't you think?
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Quote (thesnipa @ May 29 2020 11:15pm)
4/800 isnt a decent sample size of anything tho lol.


If I took 4 skittles out of a jar of 800 and 4 of them murdered my black friend i wouldn't want to eat any more skittles out of that jar.
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