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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 20 2022 01:26pm)
Yeah this is a big shit sandwich. Generations of Russian children will be born owing reparations to Ukraine.

Some people blame Ukraine for existing. Some people blame Russia for acting like orcs and attacking their neighbors unprovoked.

It is ironic that the people who resent Ukraine for existing are the same people who defend the fuck out of Israel existing. True irony is rare but real lol.


Superpowers never have to pay reparations because they can (broadly) do whatever they want. Only "defeated" opponents pay reparations. instead what is likely to happen here is that sanctions will exist for years afterwards.
in my opinion.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 20 2022 02:19pm)
From what I watch from Taiwanese News and Hong Kong News media.
The escalation and the continuation of the current Ukraine conflict have potentially open up two more hot spots.

The Taiwan China Hot spot , potential is there but less likely to happen.

The second Hot spot in Europe. This has huge potential and is looming very eerily.
Serbia and Kosovo.

Let me know your inputs if you have any.


The Taiwan news story today was created by Taiwan, not china, from what i gather. therefore my position remains the same on this issue. i.e. that china are likely not to invade. dunno about Serbia and Kosovo have not read up on that.

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Is the American government paying reparations to the Syrians?


They will not. Are they paying reparations to Libya , Iraq, Vietnam and Serbia ? I guess not. So why should the Syrians be paid.
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Is the American government paying reparations to the Syrians?


We did major reparations in Iraq. Donald J Trump turned over all American assets in Syria to Vladimir Putin as his vassal.

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Superpowers never have to pay reparations because they can (broadly) do whatever they want. Only "defeated" opponents pay reparations. instead what is likely to happen here is that sanctions will exist for years afterwards.
in my opinion.


All those weird yachts with the custom leathers and woods will be auctioned to help out. Western nations will use this as an excuse to rob the Russian oligarchs of their football teams, castles, islands, and super yachts.

It will be of no benefit to the common person for sure. Butchers, carpenters, masons, etc, from Russia and Ukraine have no reason to be fighting each other.

But in short "The strong do what they will, the weak endure what they must". Russia is much weaker to NATO here and they underestimated their commitment to defending democracy in Europe.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 20 2022 09:24am)
On the other hand Iraq just completed her reparations to USA for the 1990 Gulf war.

Iraq has completed payment of $52.4 billion to compensate individuals, companies and governments who proved damages due to its 1990 invasion and occupation of Kuwait, the United Nations reparations body said on Wednesday.

"With the final payment of compensation made on 13 January 2022, all compensation awarded by the Commission has now been paid in full," the Geneva-based body said in a statement following a closed-door meeting of its Governing Council.

Reuters.


You said one thing and quoted another thing.

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We did major reparations in Iraq. Donald J Trump turned over all American assets in Syria to Vladimir Putin as his vassal.


On the other hand Iraq just completed her reparations to USA for the 1990 Gulf war.

Iraq has completed payment of $52.4 billion to compensate individuals, companies and governments who proved damages due to its 1990 invasion and occupation of Kuwait, the United Nations reparations body said on Wednesday.

"With the final payment of compensation made on 13 January 2022, all compensation awarded by the Commission has now been paid in full," the Geneva-based body said in a statement following a closed-door meeting of its Governing Council.

Reuters.
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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 20 2022 02:21pm)
We did major reparations in Iraq.


to be clear: invaded Iraq under false pretenses, killed men women and children, still doing gods knows what war crimes to this day and no reparations in Iraq.
this is of course a crime perpetuated by the america government then and now, and not the american people.

the same principal should be applied to russia. i.e. government bad, not its people.

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to be clear: invaded Iraq under false pretenses, killed men women and children, still doing gods knows what war crimes to this day and no reparations in Iraq.

this is of course a crime perpetuated by the america government then and now, and not the american people.

the same principal should be applied to russia. i.e. government bad, the people cant do much about it.


I'm not defending American war in Iraq.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 20 2022 09:21am)
They will not. Are they paying reparations to Libya , Iraq, Vietnam and Serbia ? I guess not. So why should the Syrians be paid.


I was in Serbia and Kosovo, seen mass graves, no need for reparations for what we did there.

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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 20 2022 02:28pm)
I'm not defending American war in Iraq.


i made a slight edit ( you know me and my edits ). i.e. that the russian people could to something about it. so rather i changed it to russians are not bad, just their government.

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That's fine, they can keep the embargo.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia attempts to assassinate Musk for putting Starlink over Ukraine.


whats this whole starlink and elon story? sounds daft at first impression. i cry bullshit.

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You said one thing and quoted another thing.


I was referring to the point you made that USA paid reparations to Iraq. Which from my knowledge they didn't.
If I misunderstood your point please pardon me.

But on the other Hand Iraq made reparations and completed theirs.

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I was referring to the point you made that USA paid reparations to Iraq. Which from my knowledge they didn't.
If I misunderstood your point please pardon me.

But on the other Hand Iraq made reparations and completed theirs.


i think he was being sarcastic there, i was just helpfully teasing it out for some users that might have misunderstood him

correct me if thats wrong
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So this means that Ukrainians will send me a dishwasher all wrapped in red stripe with big ribbon on top as a reparation?

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