Nope, Russia doesn't have a beef with France or Germany. Erdogan could talk to Putin to get his people out if they could surrender. I expect regular army instructors/officers from US or/and UK who are currently enlisted in their countries (not mercenaries) = direct Nato involvement in the conflict. You can imagine what Russian propaganda would do with them. Even more interesting if there are high ranking CIA members.
edit:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/new-surrender-deadline-mariupol-west-promises-ukraine-more-arms-2022-04-19/?utm_source=reddit.com
They could've surrendered again.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 20 2022 01:09am

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704680

There's something deliciously ironic about Nazis wielding Jewish weapons in 2022

If I had the energy, I'd start a tally of all your lies. But I'd probably burn out from the effort.

I aM jUsT a SeEkEr Of TrUtH

If the Kremlin suddenly flipped their script to be pro-nazi overnight like neoliberals did, do you think chopsticks would be telling us how nazis are the real good guys?

i guess, but its not like they would have to do that

the putin regime is the textbook definition of fascism already

Their ancestors are not smiling at them anymore

I honestly see no reason not to.

I won't participate in this special olympics

it just means when anyone spouts rubbish they are called out for it. no different from what has already been done.

England:

For days after the Moskva cruiser sank in the Black Sea, Yulia Tsyvova had been desperately searching for information about her son Andrei. Like hundreds of other Russian families of the crew members, she had not been told whether he had survived the reported Ukrainian missile attack that had sunk the Russian flagship of the Black Sea fleet. Then on Monday morning she received a call from the Russian defence ministry. Her son was dead. “He was only 19, he was a conscript,” said Tsyvova, who wept as she spoke by telephone. “They didn’t tell me anything else, no information on when the funeral would be. “I am sure he isn’t the only one who died.” Family members of sailors who served onboard the Moskva are demanding answers as the ministry has sought to suppress information about what happened to the ship or its estimated 510-strong crew. The total number of dead, wounded and missing remains a state secret.

India:

The Kremlin refused Tuesday to reveal any details about casualties suffered from the sinking of Russia's guided-missile cruiser Moskva, as parents called for the truth about their missing children. The flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet sank last week after an explosion and fire that Ukraine said was caused by a successful missile strike and Russia said was the result of exploding munitions. Russian authorities said the crew had been evacuated from the warship -- which is able to carry up to 680 sailors -- but gave no other details.

Reuters:

April 15 (Reuters) - Dozens of people gathered in the Crimean city of Sevastopol on Friday to mourn the sinking of the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, a symbol, the crowd heard, of hope, revival and power until its demise. Some embraced and others laid flowers in memory of the Moskva missile cruiser at a monument to the 1696 foundation of the Russian navy in the centre of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet. Moscow, which annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, said the ship sank while being towed in stormy seas after a fire caused by an ammunition explosion. Ukraine said one of its missiles had caused it to sink. Reuters was unable to verify the exact circumstances of the ship's demise.


This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 20 2022 05:12am

It's pretty clear to me. I just don't take seriously anything he posts, so I won't dig for all the lies when it needs just one to be proven, which already happened.