so people have the choice between guys bought by regeneron or guys bought by pfizer, j&j etc

i choose none of them

does not change the fact that opening up is the only good decision here

there is a reason people are moving to florida and texas in big numbers

why do you pretend you give a fuck about people's health, if you don't care about your own health? you're huge and you look like a giant donut
why do you pretend you know anything about health so that it makes you a legitimate source of information towards other people, while you spent your whole life being obese and quite average if not bellow average when it comes to your intelligence.
why do all fat people suddenly "care" about health of others, while they're jumping on a "Free Burger If You're Vaccinted" train, which was literally a thing in USA.




Israel Population: 9 mil
Vaccinations: 78% population fully vaccinated (data varies on different websites, could be wrong)
3rd dose (Booster) : 1+million
good to see vaccinations are helping in fight against covid19 pal. Israel hitting it's new All Time High in positive cases.






https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta



Keep it up fatso, did you sign up for booster yet?

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Aug 20 2021 08:37am

there's a stark difference between caring about people's LIVES and HEALTH. specifically because trying to help people get healthier has proven to be ineffective, especially in the US.

i cant take action to stop fatties from eating mcdonalds 4 times a week and not working out and not drinking soda. but maybe with action to increase vaccine counts, lower public gatherings, and promote mask wearing those same fatties wont also die and overburden the healthcare system so that their 40 year old fat ass is taking up a hospital bed that my grandma may end up needing, taking a doctors time she might need, etc.

smart people are pragmatic people. expecting a population of 300m+ people who are largely unhealthy to take better care of themselves as a solution to covid isnt a smart course of action, its a selfish one from someone who's likely already healthy enough to pass through a covid infection with just a few minor body aches.

sadly many of those same unhealthy idiots dont want help, i just hope they die before they clog up a hospital bed. i love/hate the news stories of dying people in beds begging for the vaccine which wont save them, i dont feel sorry for them, i feel sorry for the doctor that has to care for them and the bed that struggles to hold them up. the faster they die the faster that bed can be disinfected and they wont serve as a risk to infect my grandma, my immune compromised wife, or my daughter. id still prefer they darwin themselves out in their trailer so we can just burn it with them inside for a cremation that best serves society.

cos average age of death is in most countries, including USA, actually higher than average life expectancy.
in USA, avg life expectancy is 78 iirc, and avg age of death is 81.
93% people that died had comorbidities. to be more specific, average person that died of covid in USA, had 4 comorbidities.
78% of people that ended up on ICU or any hospitalizations (not intensive care) due to covid, were obese people with previous serious health conditions.


in conclusion, if you're not a disgusting waste of oxygen, or an old person, you should be fine.
im all in for vaccines for whoever wants them, i actually support vaccines 100% for old people. my grandparents got it and i encouraged them to when they were unsure.
however, if I should get it, as a 28 y/o healthy person? hell no
should kids, that btw took covid like champs and had no issues take vaccines, so they could save old people? fuck no. what kind of society are we if we're willing to risk lives of young adults and children in order to possibly save old members of our society? sounds twisted to me

risk lives of young people is a really funny way to describe a vaccine shot that almost literally never kills young people.

if my kid isnt willing to take a shot that has a .000000000000000001% fatal rate in order to save grandma from a disease that she has a 50-50 shot or worse from surviving i'll just contact CPS to have her adopted. luckily as a parent i wont raise her to be an idiot like almost all anti vaxxers.

it's tragic that people, including majority on this forum, believe taking a vaccine is everything they need to do to keep themselves safe.
it's tragic from the side of our leaders that not a single time was data released on underlying health conditions of covid victims, in order to raise awareness of self care when it comes to health and fitness.
it's seriously sad that people eating mcdonalds 4times a week will get a vaccine, then proceed with their trash lifestyle and consider themselves to be heroes cos they care for community. while lets be real, they did nothing for themselves or those around them.
not a single country, single pro-vax doctor, or any politician, did even once mention how changing diet and going out for a run could actually help us in this pandemic. quite the contrary, some mayors and governors in USA offered free donuts and burgers for vaccinated people. and those are our "leaders" who's opinion you're not allowed to oppose with any facts, cos you're suddenly a flat earth conspiracy theorist.








short term, she'll be fine.
long term, no1 knows.
i know people dont like it when you call it an "experimental treatment", but that's what it's officially called, for a reason. cos long term effects are unknown as vaccine is on trial until end of 2023.
so how will ur daughter react to that in a long run, no1 knows. which is why pushing vaccine that's clinically not tested in a long run or even approved yet by FDA, shouldn't be happening.

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Aug 20 2021 08:56am

its funny how we have forgotten that hospitals have been full with people having respiratory diseases every single winter and now its suddenly a problem



children have very low virus loads and the vaccines dont stop the spread like expected

so the whole "kid is saving grandma" narrative is just complete nonsense in every aspect

this is so silly. i heard advice from doctors every morning as i drove to work telling people the best medicine is preventative and where safe and allowed exercise, fresh air, and quality food are a leading cause for surviving covid. you guys have repeated this so often you believe it lol, and its silly. what DeBlasio does for slimball newyorkers is valid to criticize, just dont copy/paste that behavior all over because thats dumb.

and like all other anti vaxxers if it did get FDA approval you'd claim it was rushed and corrupt, paid to push through by big pharma. lack of FDA approval might be one of the most overblown talking points there is, and its a goalpost anti vaxxers are just licking their chops to shift.



it doesnt stop spread outright =/= doesnt slow spread.

i wont waste my time explaining more to someone that's clearly too silly to get that.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 20 2021 09:01am

if anything is silly its vaccinating someone with zero risk, who does not contribute to the spread, with something that does barely slow the spread, to save grandma who has the shot herself to be protected from a severe case

if anything covid has caused mass brain disease in the world, all logic is gone