Quote (TiStuff @ May 6 2022 06:56pm)
there are animal "rights activists" but thats a whole other topic
at conception is when the "magic/life " starts. a "pro lifer stance"
as an experiment a "simple" cell is punctured and the insides flow out side and the cell dies. you can put everything back and stitch it up. but it will remain dead. i havent come across anything that explains life, it is still a mystery.
a pro abortion stance seem to have no limits. There is some stuff going around that they are pushing for "abortion" even after birth.
my personal stance on the argument is to make it a personal question. "is sex a responsibility or is it a toy?"
if you like some things that make you think check out my threads in the science platform :)
I feel like though since philosophy and theology (or God in general) are so interwoven that it's a bad place to start a conversation with people who doesn't not believe in God nor care about it at all.
So I felt that science would and should be a good middle ground and biology would be the closest to being able to answer that question of "when life begins." I'm curious to know if there are credible biologists or organizations that have made statements about it.
As far as is sex a responsibility or is it a toy, that would be based on a morality based on a religious context more than anything. Without God or religion as the context, as long as society cues are not crossed (incest, underage, and etc but I suppose even that can be argued "who cares"), it is a "toy" more than responsibility. Just want to clear that, I'm not saying I believe that sex is a toy but I'm just writing it out for the discussion sake.