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May 29 2020 06:21am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 29 2020 07:06am)
Normally I'd agree, but in this case, everything was caught live on camera to a national audience. The situation in this place was totally under control and calm, no fights between police and protesters since there were no protesters around to begin with.
The reporters were calmly and without any aggression talking to the cops, and then out of nowhere and for no apparent reason, they get arrested.


ya i guess what im saying is i dont support them being arrested, but from the context balrog raised (constitutional rights) ala freedom of the press, im saying press cant just report whenever/wherever they want. so while i dont support this arrest, at all, i do agree with the restrictions in a general sense that these cops foolishly used to arrest them. and thats assuming this was even a restricted zone.
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May 29 2020 06:23am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 29 2020 08:21am)
ya i guess what im saying is i dont support them being arrested, but from the context balrog raised (constitutional rights) ala freedom of the press, im saying press cant just report whenever/wherever they want. so while i dont support this arrest, at all, i do agree with the restrictions in a general sense that these cops foolishly used to arrest them. and thats assuming this was even a restricted zone.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but did these particular state police who did the actual arresting make the call? Or did they communicate with whoever is in charge and just follow orders?
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May 29 2020 06:25am
Quote (Kayeto @ May 29 2020 05:19am)
If people had good reasons to believe that, then this situation would be a whole lot different.


Plenty of murdering cops have been sent to prison. There was no reason not to believe this one would be another. Even if shoulder cams show that Floyd did resist (which is possible, given he was already a convicted felon), it doesn't matter. The cop continued blocking off air after Floyd was unconscious, and the cop knew the guy was unconscious. He checked him when the people told him. He knowingly continued restricting air. The only reason to do so is to cause brain death. That's willful murder. So forget all the "this or that" of Floyd's background.

The expectation that the officer(s) would be arrested tried, and locked in a cage within 24 hours is so woefully unrealistic it's not even funny. The legal system simply doesn't move that fast.
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May 29 2020 06:25am
I'm wondering how a reporter can get arrested but not the camera man. Seems fishy, like it could be some kinda stunt.
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May 29 2020 06:26am
Quote (Kayeto @ May 29 2020 08:25am)
I'm wondering how a reporter can get arrested but not the camera man. Seems fishy, like it could be some kinda stunt.


They arrested them all. The reporter, the producer, and the camera man.
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May 29 2020 06:28am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 29 2020 08:25am)
Plenty of murdering cops have been sent to prison. There was no reason not to believe this one would be another. Even if shoulder cams show that Floyd did resist (which is possible, given he was already a convicted felon), it doesn't matter. The cop continued blocking off air after Floyd was unconscious, and the cop knew the guy was unconscious. He checked him when the people told him. He knowingly continued restricting air. The only reason to do so is to cause brain death. That's willful murder. So forget all the "this or that" of Floyd's background.

The expectation that the officer(s) would be arrested tried, and locked in a cage within 24 hours is so woefully unrealistic it's not even funny. The legal system simply doesn't move that fast.


If a casino was hosting bets on the outcome of the trial, what odds do you think I could get if I bet on the verdict being 'not guilty'?
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May 29 2020 06:29am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 29 2020 06:41am)
Some of the comments here are insane.

For the record: Murdering is bad. Rape is bad. Arson is bad. Theft is bad. Assault is bad.

ALL these things are true. The fact that a cop murdered Floyd? Terrible. Given time for the system to work, the Cop'll get his. The fact that businesses have been burned down and looted, innocent people have been raped, murdered, and assaulted, shit's been stolen? Also bad. The perpetrators need to get theirs.

You don't excuse one crime by pointing at another. You prosecute them both.

The so-called "Progressives" in this thread need some self-awareness. Society doesn't "progress" by burning itself to the ground the moment something bad happens. You lot are worse than those Revelations-based Christian types who pray on a daily basis for the end of the world. At least their shit is just wishful thinking, rather than trying to make it happen.


What we are seeing isn't the effect of a 'moment something bad happened'. Fellow PARDs have already listed several reasons why people are outraged. I think the moment the police lock up those arresting officers, the effect will be ease of tensions.
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May 29 2020 06:30am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 29 2020 06:42am)
At least black people riot over murder and racism, white people riot because the wrong sports team won.


People of all colors riot when the "right team" wins too.
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May 29 2020 06:31am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 29 2020 10:25pm)
Plenty of murdering cops have been sent to prison. There was no reason not to believe this one would be another. Even if shoulder cams show that Floyd did resist (which is possible, given he was already a convicted felon), it doesn't matter. The cop continued blocking off air after Floyd was unconscious, and the cop knew the guy was unconscious. He checked him when the people told him. He knowingly continued restricting air. The only reason to do so is to cause brain death. That's willful murder. So forget all the "this or that" of Floyd's background.

The expectation that the officer(s) would be arrested tried, and locked in a cage within 24 hours is so woefully unrealistic it's not even funny. The legal system simply doesn't move that fast.


Prosecutor already said there was reason to not press charges.

Quote (Santara @ May 29 2020 10:30pm)
People of all colors riot when the "right team" wins too.


I like to feel like a part of something.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 29 2020 06:31am
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May 29 2020 06:37am
Quote (Engage_Enemy @ May 29 2020 07:23am)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did these particular state police who did the actual arresting make the call? Or did they communicate with whoever is in charge and just follow orders?


yesterday i listened to the scanner for several hours. its anybody's guess based on that. calls werent getting through, many radios seemed to be malfunctioning, cellphones were being used off scanner, etc. so no clue.
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