Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 15 Aug 2021 11:25)
That's all well and good in theory, until you realize that a hospital at 100% capacity can't help people who are injured or sick through no fault of their own, and that a medical system which is full of totally drained workers who can't give adequate care because of the load causes its own mountain of problems.
Think two steps further and you'll realize that "personal resonsibility" in the context of public health issues quickly results in real injury to people who made the right decisions.
Good. I don't care. The business model for Hospitals means that no hospital stays in business unless it's 60%+ capacity at any given time. That means that literally every flu season, every time a novel virus hits, any time there's a bacterial outbreak, every time there's a natural disaster, hospitals get full. This is and has been the case for longer than you've been alive.
Covid is nothing special in any way in that respect, and Covid is far more mild on the strain it puts on hospitals than any real epidemic. If your issue is hospitals, encourage them to start performing triage. That's what has been done for thousands of years when physicians have more patients than they can handle. Pump those who can't be saved full of painkillers so they'll be comfortable, help the most critically in need who can be saved first, and work your way through the list.
God damn American Progressives are weak pussies. People get sick, injured, and die every fucking day.
Through no fault of their own. Hospitals don't exist to prevent death. They exist to preserve life to the best of their ability. Death cannot be prevented. Sickness cannot be prevented. Injury cannot be prevented.
Some 20 year old doesn't want the vaccination, is perfectly healthy, has no comorbidities? Good on them. They happen to be the one in a million who ends up dying of the virus? They made their choice. Hospital could have potentially saved them, but didn't have a bed in time? Oh well, they could have gotten vaccinated.
The hospitals are not liable for people dying of covid. The Pharma companies are not liable for people dying of covid or dying from complications from the vaccines. Literally, all the responsibility falls directly on those who get sick. There's nobody else to turn to, nobody to sue.
If you want to fix hospital issues, it's not by attempting to mandate medical procedures without informed consent. You need to fix hospital costs. And good fucking luck. Progressives just like you have made it so easy to sue hospitals, nurses, and doctors for any imagined issue that there are layers on layers of insurance required, and let's not even get started not just with educational costs, but the limited (by governmental decree) educational program space for nurses, doctors etc. The fact that there are 10x as many people willing to be nurses and doctors in the US who qualify for the programs, yet so many qualified applicants are turned away is kind of a problem, don't you agree? Well, maybe you wouldn't, given you washed out. But the average logical person probably would.
Personal responsibility doesn't mean other people have a responsibility towards you, Thor. Personal responsibility doesn't mean that random people need to look out for private businesses such as hospital, Thor. Personal responsibility means that people need to choose what's best for themselves and deal with the consequences. If the consequence is they end up with a virus, and have to wait so long for a hospital bed that they die? Their choice, their problem. It's not YOUR choice. And you have no right, whatsoever, to take that choice away from them.
Quote (Bazi @ 15 Aug 2021 11:33)
You’re talking to someone with <3rd grade research skills to say the following statement
Gonna post more sources with graphs that link their source materials to 404's? Grow up, kiddo.
This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Aug 15 2021 12:46pm