LOL clearly you haven’t been reading if you think he hasn’t been insulting people.

Get a life.

To Push Back Russians, Ukrainians Hit a Village With Cluster Munitions

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/18/world/europe/ukraine-forces-cluster-munitions.html

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Guys, please try not to be confrontational to every moderate user that comes in here. It is readily accepted that chopstickz777 does not fall under this catagory and that his views are quite far out there, but Jessiwan is correct, you dont need personal attacks to refute a point/view/position. As I have already said several times, if you kick everyone out of the discussion that you dont agree with you are left with no discussion, and in hating on someone the risk is always there that you become that very thing.

News around the world :

Ireland: Russia has launched a major offensive into eastern Ukraine, authorities in Kyiv said, opening a new phase of its invasion after being thwarted in efforts to capture the capital.
Israel: Mediazona said that it had tried to comply with censorship laws for years but that it refused to call Russia's invasion of Ukraine a "special operation."
Russia: Zelensky gave EU completed questionnaire to join EU — Ukraine’s presidential office

Expect this to be the last of the Foxnews like headlines from Australia, I am using a different site from now on ~
Australia: Captured Brits beg for swap with oligarch | and | Vladimir Putin taunts the West over ‘failed’ sanctions in new address
The new site:
Australia: Russia's neighbours chasing NATO membership

China: UN chief calls for immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine
Singapore: Ukraine says ‘Battle of Donbas’ begins with blasts all along front

and a couple of pictures:

The fight until the last Ukrainian has begun. You can guess who'd be the loser of this war despite all of the "help".

@ferdia
From Selensky's perspective, leaving nazis in azow factory to their certain deaths frees him from their shackles. There was a legitimate threat to him by not cooperating with them.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 19 2022 02:45am

I have not looked at the political dynamic in Ukraine at all. I felt its safer to simply see how it plays out then to get into conversations re: nazi's etc.
Overall, I am aware of the deep divisions in Ukraine westy west easty east, but my view is those in azow factory are only an element, and not the totality of those with a certain ideology.
i.e. when the dust settles Ukraine will still be deeply divided, it will have serious social problems with some pretty radical elements and it remains to be seen by the end of all this as to what Ukraine geographically looks like, and what its political structure looks like.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 19 2022 03:22am

local triggered trashes should make the trip to fortify ukraine ASAP

SIR YES SIR!!!!

Having their firepower decimated makes it much easier to subdue them. They were artificially made more influental since Obama administration. In normal circumstances, more moderate parties would rule Ukraine.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 19 2022 03:34am

In northern Ireland the IRA (a terrorist organization that sought for the unification of Ireland via terrorist activities) acquired a lot of sympathy from elements within the US and elsewhere. There is ample reading material on this. The IRA has now effectively stopped, and instead they pursue their goals through political means, namely, the Sinn Fein political party. It is worth noting however that while they have stopped, they are still there. Northern Ireland, even now, decades later, is still deeply divided with alot of social problems. One side wants to be ruled by England "unionists" while the other side wants to be united with southern ireland "republicans".

I would see similar issues in Ukraine. What is different is that Ireland is an island, and Ukraine is not, and therefore (please dont flame me ) ultimately if the two sides are not able to reconcile (highly likely) then a parting of ways honestly may be the best thing long term for Ukraine.

This debate on division is all months, if not years away, so there is really no point going in to this now or arguing the merits or fairness or logistics or morality. I know that the nazi element is not one and the same as those in eastern ukraine but they are all interconnected which is why overall it remains to be seen what Ukraine looks like by the end of all this.

The most likely scenario which I would see is after the war (if it ends anytime in the next 1 month to 5 years) the most likely outcome is that gun crime and drugs will go through the roof (as it did in northern ireland) noting the value of life will by then have sharply declined, as it did in ireland, in the eyes of radical organizations.

full disclosure, I am in the republic of ireland (southern ireland) and I would like if northern ireland integrated with southern ireland. i would like to see that in my life time but i would only hope for that if there was at least a 70% vote in northern ireland for that. (i am divided on such votes as 51/49 noting advancement is sometimes done by the narrowest of margins but that bad laws can also come into force via this means). if they want to rule themselves, let them. if they want to forge their own path, let them.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 19 2022 04:04am

this is not specific to Ukraine: Where you have 2 sides evenly matched but not in agreement, when one side wins the other side will be bitter. its far better for both sides to agree on something which is mutually beneficial so as to mitigate against long term discord. For this reason 2 opposing sides should always seek terms they can mutually agree on then to argue for years on what they cant. The best way to defeat an opponent is to make him your friend.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 19 2022 04:35am