Quote (RedFromWinter @ 13 Aug 2021 04:32)
No, it is still going over your head ROFL. You are too stuck on my example of 'overweight and unhealthy', could swap that with 'smokes 2 packs a day', 'slept with too many whores', or 'post too much dumb shit on d2jsp' etc. Fat and unhealthy has nothing to do with my exact point, just an example of other poor choices people make resulting in medical needs. I think I struck a personal nerve with you using 'fat and unhealthy' as my random example of poor choice.
Goodluck comprehending the above, and applaud your obfuscation/redirection failure.
If you mean "making poor medical choises" more broadly, than say so instead of giving a very specific example and then expecting others to interpret it in the correct, much more general sense.
This is particularly relevant since the "all younger folks who get hospitalized with covid have been fat or unhealthy fucks"-argument is ubiquitous in this debate. It's commonly used by antivaxxers as a deflection so that when a young person ends up on the ventilator, they can blame something other than his refusal to get jabbed while simultaneously downplaying their own personal risk. So forgive me for not having realized that you were not referring to this ubiquitous argument when you were harping on about fat people in great detail for multiple posts in a row.
Now, regarding your argument that the poor health choices people make all the time do not lead to hospitals deprioritizing them:
- not all poor health choices are made equal. Overweight or smoking are much harder to prevent and require active, substantial effort to overcome, plus a permanent change in lifestyle. By contrast, getting jabbed is a one-off that requires virtually no effort.
- the health issues caused by overweight, smoking, drinking etc. manifest themselves after a long time of abuse while a viral infection like covid can be caught any time you leave your house. Covid is a much bigger immediate health threat.
- the healthcare system is geared toward coping with the steady influx of patients suffering from illnesses caused by poor health choices like obesity, smoking or drinking. These patients are not flooding the hospitals, their presence is factored in.
- hospitals are strained and have explicitly been asking people to get vaccinated for months so that the pressure is alleviated a little bit. Those who actively decide against the vaccination are actively refusing to cooperate and do their part in the struggle to keep hospitals afloat.
- irrespective of covid, I would indeed support hospitals prioritizing the treatment of patients who got sick through no fault of their own (e.g. breast cancer) over those who got sick because of bad choices and behavior whenever there is a crisis situation calling for such a prioritization.