https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-rules-cases-contacts-outbreaks-1.6137527

woot 2 tier system for people now !!

This post was edited by GarryGarry on Aug 11 2021 01:18pm

canada and australia are so wacky

nothing collapsed even without the vaccines.......



first of all, YOU are covid karen, get your defintion straight

secondly, there have never been "conspiracy nuts" like me flooding anything and there never will be, period

you dont have to protect anyone, what kind of ridiculous logic is that? covid karens and power hungry polticians took your freedom and not people that neither want nor need your "protection"

aside from the fact that you cant even "protect" anybody with vaccinated people also being spreaders

you are the first to complain here, when you think somebody picks a group of people as their scapegoat and here you are, mimimi fucking morons, idiots, insert random insult, because people exercise their human rights

once again, none of your business and the real, hardcore antivaxxers are a tiny minority even among those who choose to not take the shot

the vaccine rate is more than good enough to prevent a system collapse that never happened even without it (in germany, not talking about sinkholes), our average age of so called covid deaths is close to life expectancy and they are all vaccinated now

so as always you are just fearmongering with a worst of the worst case scenario

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Aug 11 2021 01:28pm

lol what? "spiraling indefinitely" is not the concern, getting bad enough to overwhelm the healthcare system is what we're talking about - and that is a very realistic scenario (a near certain one if everyone was a selfish little anti-vaxxer btw). and no, they don't just magically "end", they slow down once it gets warmer again, or once a gamechanger, like a vaccination for example, is introduced. also, the UK has a HIGHER vaccination rate than we have, and to the best of my knowledge it's not winter there yet. if you think we're so far away from that, just looks at some of the red US states ALREADY at capacity long before winter - it clearly indicates our healthcare systems are anything but safe - and the delta variant will certainly test them.

ya sorry, covid karen, but your narrative simply doesn't hold up to the FACTS (as per usual). in germany alone, almost one million surgeries were delayed last fall / winter / early spring because of covid patients flooding the ICUs. 50k of those were crucial cancer related surgeries, which had some devastating consequences. we will have similar scenarios this winter in order to prevent a collapse of the system, and selfish conspiracy nuts like you are to blame.

also, while it's true that the vaccine doesn't fully protect you from catching and transmitting the virus (just like you can still die in a car accident while having airbags and a seatbelt - but no reasonable person would argue therefore they are useless, because it's a moronic "argument"), the point is that is not only slows the spread (and the development of more dangerous mutations), but that vaccinated people don't end up on ventilators, wasting resources that could save a decent person's life...

hospitals would not be full if people would take care of themselves, keeping zinc and D vitamine levels high is the key

forget what I say, go to macdonalds and have a happy covid lmao!

no, we wont

i was complaining about delayed treatments before guys like you ever did, but i am glad you admit that at least

the facts are that most of it was just fear and in which universe does a covid patient take away a spot for someone who needs surgery? they just dont

i will say it again, our capacities were never even close to collapse according to the official stats, there was no ICU shortage (just look it up, ICU usage was around what is considered normal) and hospitals actively cheated with statistics to make money

the people who end up on ventilators in masses are already vaccinated

you dont care about people, your last sentence about "decent persons life" makes that very clear, so in other words you are not decent and not worth treating for not getting a syringe

just disgusting and thats coming from the guy who complains, when i am talking about massive migrant crime

but i am glad you are being honest here on how you see people

please never talk about human rights or decency ever again

you could have just said that you have no clue what you're talking about and don't want to deal with facts that demonstrate how selfish covid karens like you contribute to the suffering of decent people. instead you resort to more lies and conspiranoia...

Hmm, so you are still for opening everything now ?

That's also what I am talking about.


What makes you so sure of that? The UK ended all restrictions and is doing plenty fine. Countries like Denmark, Switzerland, Austria and many more are taking back restrictions and can easily cope so far.


Neither the Delta-induced wave in India nor the one in the UK was ended by warmer weather or the introduction of a new vaccine. Yet they ended rather abruptly. Just like the Alpha-induced wave here in Germany was already broken while we still had shit weather and long before additional restrictions had a chance to take effect.


the UK currently has 58.5% of its population vaccinated, we have 55.6%. on july 19th, when the UK lifted all restrictions, they had 53.8%.
don't get fooled by the higher numbers which are floated around (70 or 80% or so), they refer to the adult population.

by now, pretty much all of Europe is at about the same vaccination rate that the UK had when they celebrated their freedom day, or even higher.



the US have a lower vaccination rate and much less restrictions, and the respective restrictions/rules in place are flouted more often than here. additionally, it's not something that is affecting all red states, just a select few of them. arizona and georgia are holding up surprisingly well. louisiana is in a tough situation, its neighboring states seem to be doing much better.

additionally, our healthcare systems here in Europe are not as shitty, our population not as obese and unhealthy and social stratification less pronounced.

and last but not least, there is no substantial argument against triaging the unvaccinated who come to an overwhelmed hospital. allowing the antivaxxers to hold everyone else hostage in terms of lockdowns/restrictions is a political choice, not an inevitability. these folks made a conscious decision to prefer to try their chances with the virus than getting jabbed - why should the rest of society stand in solidarity and suffer from restrictions because these people made the wrong choice?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 11 2021 02:54pm