why so mad? your statement was "polio is not a mutating virus" - and that is patently wrong. it's clear you don't know what you're talking about, so take your own advice and leave this thread forever.

and again, you completely missed the point anyway: it's not about covid being "the same" as polio (children are currently NOT being vaccinated against covid), but that the feigned concern about "freedom™" is utter bs, it's largely politically motivated...

tinfoil hat statements, trumpism or whatever motivation it is does not change the fact that basic rights and freedom are not negotiable, they are not something that is given or have to be earned by getting a shot

everyone has had the opportunity now, the elderly are all protected, 350 pound walmart legends had the chance to protect themselves, covid is not a problem for children

every initial argument from 18 months ago (remember 3 weeks to stop the spread, then until everyone could get the vaccine?) is obsolete

the constant moving of goalposts has to end right now, opening everything and all covid measures gone is the only acceptable outcome

btw, comparing polio and covid is just ridiclous, thats heavyweight vs featherweight

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Aug 11 2021 11:35am

this so much. I dont think each and every covid measure must be gone though, just that nothing should be mandated anymore and everything be put on a voluntary basis.

So no more healthcare & related ICU collapse risk ? I means the thingy where people have the freedom to die in the hospital corridors etc

Oh wait, maybe they deserve it, lets do it frankly !
Problem is No politician want that. It destroys careers.




Let's do like in Japan: Public shaming.

You'd be the first one shamed for being a double digit IQd obese cuck
Feelsbadman

so when the winter wave hits just let the healthcare system collapse due to covid karens and conspiracy nuts like you flooding the ICUs?

don't get me wrong, i WANT the mask wearing, distancing, and all the other limitations to stop immediately, i'm sick of having MY freedoms limited to protect selfish little science-denying shitlords. i'd happily see them suffer the consequenses of their arrogance and ignorance, darwin awards for all of them - but not at the cost of innocent people who will inevitably suffer from it.

sure, age, overweight, and other factors are strongly connected with severe covid cases, and it's much less likely for younger and healthier people to end up hospitalised or dead, but there have been plenty of exceptions to that, and this kind of hubris will backfire for even more of the morons who consider themselves invincible... and looking at the covid karen protests, at the kind of people who publicly celebrate their anti-intellectualism, it's not too difficult to predict that a significant portion of them will end up needlessly occupying crucial healthcare resources...

"i WANT the mask wearing, distancing, and all the other limitations to stop immediately"
(then stop being such a order follower and stop doing it they never gona let u free)

winter wave?

by that you mean your typical flu they convince people is Covid cuz people can't recall how the flu made them feel like due to their gold fish attention span.

notice how their "summer wave" coincided with the allergies season? people just too slow to recall what allergies does to you.

Keep watching tv, keep magic finding. it clearly helps.

that guy is retarded enough to think it'll all goes away now they bent over for 2 years showing the system how weak they are haha. It's so funny to watch these stupid fucks live/think.

We predicted years before it goes back to normal and i call it, will take years before they even think bout stopping masks/lockdown with all their fake variants.

These guys hahahaha.

"Two weeks to flatten the curve" yet here we are and we were called conspiracy theorist with our covidpassport, years lock down and shit. Guess we are the remaining few smart people who live away from their devices in the real world in real time.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Aug 11 2021 12:26pm

Security in grocery shop asking people on entrance to put masks over their noses. Imagine doing thst shit for 9h a day for €13/h.
Told him "absolutely not, im sorry" and guy just lets me through.

Everyone is sick of it already, and thats a good sign.
People just dont give a fuck anymore. Most vaxed ppl i work with regret it cos they know its experimental emergency vaccine, with which they didnt get any more rights or freedom than i did. And they jumped on it due to tv caused panic.
Feelsgoodman

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Aug 11 2021 01:10pm

the bolded is the big money question: does this risk of the healthcare system collapsing actually still exist? like the examples of the UK and India have shown, even unmitigated waves don't spiral upwards indefinitely, they end after a couple of weeks. could we get enough critical cases in this timeframe in spite of the vaccines to truly threaten the healthcare system again?



one thing we have to keep in mind when looking at vaccination rates is that they are heavily skewed toward the elderly. the big majority of the unvaccinated are the younger folks whose covid risk is magnitudes lower.
pretty much every western country has already vaccinated 90+% of its risk-weighted population.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 11 2021 01:13pm