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Quote (fender @ Aug 10 2021 04:48pm)
citation needed

https://i.imgur.com/DnGrFib.jpeg

did you whoosh literally everything in my post? the "locking up of children" was not a reply to early covid measures trying to contain uncontrolled spread, but to void's suggestion that restricting kids' social interaction would be an overreaction - i was merely pointing out that was never the suggestion, especially since we have a much better, easier, and sensible way of protecting them...


infection rates are relative to testing testing testing
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Aug 10 2021 05:59pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 10 2021 04:25pm)
Because cold like symptoms are not threatening enough to vaccinate them against it. If the death rate was higher I'd consider it. I honestly would want my healthy kid to catch the rona and develop an immune system response antibodies versus vaccinating them for something like this. I'm of the mind that natural responses with the least amount of interference are ideal. Like if we exclude the kids that had underlying conditions (which is most of those 349) the death rate would be extremely tiny, even smaller than the .001% or so it is now including those kids.

The other thing about vaccines is, they are a fairly recent phenomena. I really don't know what the impact of some vaccines are long term, like over the spans of decades or generations. We can't really know the full extent of vaccines when we've only been doing it for what 100 years? That doesn't mean I'm rejecting vaccines, but i'd like to do with the least amount possible. Like my daughter, she's 1, she got all of her routine vaccines but some of the other ones like flu I personally think she can live without. If the Covid death rate spikes I have no problem with her getting it but for now, nah.


I mean, the way the COVID vaccine works is pretty cool. You should look into it (mRNA based vaccines) because I imagine that almost all vaccines will use this technology in the future (including the flu vaccine). Your body is going to react the same way to the vaccine as it would the actual disease because of how the technology works. That's why it's strange to hear you say that you'd rather them "catch the rona" as opposed to "vaccinating them." With this type of vaccine, you're training your body to attack something very specific without the downside of the virus mutating. This is basically a game changer and the world is going to be very different in 20 years because of this technology.



Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 10 2021 04:38pm)
That's the entire point: for young children and adolescents, the risk from covid is so incredibly small that it is of roughly the same magnitude as the also incredibly small risk of severe side effects from the vaccines (e.g. myocarditis). Hence, for children, it is not a given anymore that the benefits outweigh the risk. To the best of my knowledge, neither the WHO nor the British or German health authorities have issued an unconditional recommendation for vaccinations of kids younger than 16 for this very reason. France and Israel have such a recommendation. Not sure about the U.S.


CDC recommends everyone 12+ get it: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/adolescents.html
Right now, they are doing trials for 5-11 year olds so I imagine that the CDC will recommend 5+ become vaccinated if they are successful.
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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 10 2021 04:59pm)
I mean, the way the COVID vaccine works is pretty cool. You should look into it (mRNA based vaccines) because I imagine that almost all vaccines will use this technology in the future (including the flu vaccine). Your body is going to react the same way to the vaccine as it would the actual disease because of how the technology works. That's why it's strange to hear you say that you'd rather them "catch the rona" as opposed to "vaccinating them." With this type of vaccine, you're training your body to attack something very specific without the downside of the virus mutating. This is basically a game changer and the world is going to be very different in 20 years because of this technology.





CDC recommends everyone 12+ get it: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/adolescents.html
Right now, they are doing trials for 5-11 year olds so I imagine that the CDC will recommend 5+ become vaccinated if they are successful.


inserting foreign mRNA into a cell is insane.
just cant imagine how all the world of covidiots miss that its experimental experimental experimental experimental experimental experimental

if you can build mRNA and inject it why not build protein spikes and inject that?

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Funny how they don't debunk Sweden that is fully open without issues OR the fully vaccinated state with covid on the rise.

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Aug 10 2021 06:43pm
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inserting foreign mRNA into a cell is insane.
just cant imagine how all the world of covidiots miss that its experimental experimental experimental experimental experimental experimental

if you can build mRNA and inject it why not build protein spikes and inject that?


Why is it insane? You're okay with a Chinese bioweapon altering you DNA instead?
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Aug 10 2021 06:48pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 10 2021 08:43pm)
Why is it insane? You're okay with a Chinese bioweapon altering you DNA instead?


Is that what they made you believe on TV?

Smh

No wonder there's still ppl who believe in religion in 2021 lol
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Aug 10 2021 06:49pm
Quote (fender @ Aug 10 2021 07:41pm)
let's be honest here: if those other vaccines were a big political issue like covid, you wouldn't get those either. it's not genuine concern about the long term effects or any kind of principled stance on the matter, carefully weighing the massive upsides against the negligible downsides... like for 99% of covid karens and science-deniers, the main reason is partisan allegiance.

now go ahead, clutch your pearls real tight, and pretend it's not true - but don't assume that people are stupid enough not to see right through those flimsy excuses...


There is no massive upside in healthy kids though, that's the crux of the argument.


Quote (thundercock @ Aug 10 2021 07:59pm)
I mean, the way the COVID vaccine works is pretty cool. You should look into it (mRNA based vaccines) because I imagine that almost all vaccines will use this technology in the future (including the flu vaccine). Your body is going to react the same way to the vaccine as it would the actual disease because of how the technology works. That's why it's strange to hear you say that you'd rather them "catch the rona" as opposed to "vaccinating them." With this type of vaccine, you're training your body to attack something very specific without the downside of the virus mutating. This is basically a game changer and the world is going to be very different in 20 years because of this technology.



I get the advancement in tech, that's great. The virus is mutating regardless of vaccine or not, that's demonstrated by the emergence of delta and lambda, and we'll probably see whatever else emerges subsequently. As a side note, I find it kind of ironic that you have bible verses in you sig while simultaneously coming from the ideological camp that's basically saying man can overcome and do everything. I don't know what's going to happen in 20 years but I personally don't put my faith in men alone. Tower of Babel-esque hubris.
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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 10 2021 05:43pm)
Why is it insane? You're okay with a Chinese bioweapon altering you DNA instead?


cells already working over time to keep entire body alive inserting mRNA just adds to their work load. its a stupid idea thats why it come from some one like criminally insane de pop bill gates. how come people cant see it??? people have zombie parasite?
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