"Upload dates" mean nothing in comparison to WHEN the pictures were physically taken.

Fail. Russia has other Black Sea Fleet ships in the zone that rescued their people, the idea that Turkey would need to step in is ridiculous.

Also, I believe Turkey itself already denied this and called it out as fake news.

Which means the usual gullible suspects fall for the lies once again. Why am I not surprised?

That's true, but Occam's Razor says the onus is on you to provide some proof that these specific photos were indeed taken "in early March" like you claim.



Prove it.

USA news: Russian ship Moskva sank after 2 Ukrainian missiles hit: Pentagon
Turkey: Turkish ship rescued 54 sailors on Russian cruiser Moskva: Lithuania

from the turkish site:



Lithuania's Defense Minister said Thursday that a Turkish ship evacuated 54 personnel onboard the Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship cruiser Moskva, which sunk after being hit by Ukrainian anti-ship missiles. The Russian cruiser sent out a distress call at night, Arvydas Anusauskas said on Facebook. "At 1.14 a.m., the cruiser lay on its side, and after half an hour, all the electricity went out. From 2 a.m., the Turkish ship evacuated 54 sailors from the cruiser, and at about 3 a.m., Turkey and Romania reported that the ship had completely sunk. The related loss of Russian personnel is still unknown, although there were 485 crew on board (66 of them officers)," Anusauskas said. Late Wednesday, Maksym Marchenko, the head of Ukraine's Odessa Regional Military Administration, said on Telegram that the Moskva was hit with two Neptune anti-ship missiles. "Neptune missiles guarding the Black Sea caused very serious damage to the Russian ship. Glory to Ukraine!" he said in his post. He also claimed there were an estimated 510 crew members on board.

Russia's Defense Ministry said Thursday that a fire had broken out on the ship and was extinguished. "The source of the fire on the cruiser Moskva is localized. There is no open burning. Ammunition explosions stopped," the ministry said in a statement. It said the cruiser remained afloat, its main missile armament was not damaged, and measures were being taken to tow the vessel to the port. Later in the day, the Defense Ministry said the Moskva had sunk in a storm during towing after suffering damage to its hull from the fire. The Moskva is the second major ship known to have suffered serious damage since the start of the war. Last month Ukraine said it had destroyed a landing support ship, the Orsk, on the smaller Sea of Azov. Russia's navy has launched cruise missiles into Ukraine and its activities in the Black Sea are crucial to supporting land operations in the south of the country, where it is battling to seize full control of the port of Mariupol.

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also from Turkey

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Russia struck a military target on the edge of Kyiv overnight with cruise missiles and has taken control of a steel plant in Mariupol, the Defense Ministry said Friday, pledging more strikes against the Ukrainian capital Kyiv after losing its Black Sea fleet flagship. Capital Kyiv was hit on Friday by some of the most powerful explosions heard since Russian forces withdrew from the area two weeks ago. Russia's Defense Ministry said in a statement that its overnight missile strikes on Kyiv had struck the "Vizar" factory on the edge of the Ukrainian capital, which it said made and repaired missiles, including anti-ship missiles. It pledged more strikes on Kyiv. "The number and scale of missile strikes on targets in Kyiv will increase in response to any terrorist attacks or acts of sabotage on Russian territory committed by the Kyiv nationalist regime," the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement. It said its forces had shot down a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter, which it said had attacked the village of Klimovo in the Bryansk region on April 14 and had also shot down a Ukrainian Sukhoi-27 jet. A group of up to 30 Polish mercenaries had also been destroyed, it said.

The ministry also said its forces had captured the Ilyich steelworks in the besieged port city of Mariupol, one of the last industrial areas holding out in the besieged eastern city that has seen the war's heaviest fighting and the worst humanitarian catastrophe. For its part, Ukraine said it had repelled Russian offensives in the town of Popasna and Rubizhne, in an area north of Mariupol. Both reports could not be independently confirmed. The explosions were reported to have been heard after the Russian Defense Ministry announced that the Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, had sunk while being towed after being badly damaged. Ukraine claimed the Moskva's damage was the result of one of its missile strikes, while Russia's Defense Ministry spoke only of a fire breaking out and of exploding ammunition. Although Russia did not acknowledge that Ukrainian missiles had hit the ship, early on Friday it struck what it described as a factory in Kyiv that made and repaired anti-ship missiles, in apparent retaliation. The Moskva was by far Russia's largest vessel in the Black Sea fleet, equipped with guided missiles to attack the shore and shoot down planes, and radar to provide air defense cover for the fleet.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 15 2022 06:32pm

inb4 "why would I waste my time on sharing pro-putin random posts I read in my Telegram groups that fit my agenda"

Sources or GTFO

https://twitter.com/kiranjoshi235/status/1514481957962657794

"Bayraktar TB-2s were used to distract the target ship"

Those Bayraktars Ukraine no longer has were involved in drawing the crew's attention, apparently.

MOAR BAYRAKTARS

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/new-bayraktar-uavs-spotted-in-ukraine.html

Source is mainly from Turkish and Lithuanian sources. I think someone posted one later on in the thread.

You're probably right that it was a bit much. There were probably some sailors on that ship that are just trying to keep their head down, haven't harmed any Ukrainians, might not even support the war, etc. For the lives lost in that category, I feel bad for their families. While I know that the average Russian isn't disgraceful enough to condone the war crimes that are happening, it's becoming increasingly frustrating to see their indifference. I understand WHY so many Russians feel the way they do but at some point you have to draw a line. Since WW2 analogies are so popular, I'd like to draw a parallel with the average German. At some point, keeping your head down, supporting the war, etc. makes you complicit. There are varying levels of being complicit of course and the consequences should be proportional.

Moar Bayraktars to be shot down after getting in MAYBE one strike if they are lucky.

Most won't even be allowed to drop one bomb