one of bogus joes top covid advisers went on CNN of all places and said the masks dont work. lol what a bunch of clowns. HONK HONK put your mask back on.......both of them

put your mask back on.................both of them

You lose your binky, sweetie?

No, deaths are not curving at the same rate. One trend is very clear: in previous waves, the death curve was a mirror image of the case curve, just shifted by a couple of weeks. An X% increase in cases translated into roughly an X% increase in deaths. By contrast, during the current wave, the death curve is much flatter than the case curve, X% more cases translate into much less than X% more deaths.

There are variations between different states, presumably based on vaccination rates and the age profile of their populace, but the connection between cases and deaths has been severly weakened. That's the vaccine effect.



Regarding the "flatten the curve did not work"-argument: when the initial lockdowns were justified and explained with the 'flatten the curve' concept, people were led to believe that there is this huge, imminent problem to which "flatten the curve" would be the solution. What we instead got after the "two weeks to flatten the curve" was the motto of "we must keep cases low, even if that requires crippling our social and economic life as well as the education of our children".

Flatten the curve was not a solution to the actual long-term problem, and in this sense, it did not work. What actually solves the problem are the vaccines, but the same people who rightfully criticized lockdown policies as not solving the issue are also the ones who refuse to take them. That's the point where the 'stupid' kicks in, not the fact that these people criticized the lockdowns.

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cutesy

any one ever talk about natural or is that a myth now?

Your pickup is really silly and you know it.

im sure they were all worried about the big bad cootie masks on social distancing and woo woo scared

Barack Obama's 60th Birthday Party Bash
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Zebua3WdAErc/

we have talked about this before.. you and I .. I NEVER thought it was long term solution, it was to keep ER's with some capacity and Dr/Nurses from having melt downs.. Not even Trump was dumb enough to say. "We only doing this so we don't have to burn bodies in the street" flatten the curve was a better way IMO. You have to be dense to think you can lock down forever, or that you can ignore it..
But again this looks pretty similar to me.. I'm sure it will be better in the overall picture. Right now its really hitting people without shots.

Of course it's moronic to think you can lock down forever, yet that's implicitly what the more hawkish among the public health community were demanding: "lockdown until vaccines arrive, no matter how long it takes".



Regarding Florida: I don't really know why the death curve is going up so sharply over there although their vaccination rate is right around the national average, unlike lots of other red states. In particular, they have very good rates among the elderly who make up the bulk of the at-risk population.
But Florida is very much the outlier in this regard. Look at the numbers for cases versus deaths in Texas, Arizona, Georgia, California, New York or Missouri on worldometers - in all of these states, cases are going up much more sharply than deaths while several of them have lower vaccination rates than Florida.


Florida, Louisiana and Arkansas seem to be the only states where deaths have increased sharply and also the only ones where the vaccines don't seem to have a big impact yet in this regard, at least at first glance. I really have no idea why the current relationship between cases and deaths in Florida is so different from that in Arizona, Texas or Georgia.

found this little gem on the twitter of one of the main covid karens in germany (karl lauterbach), breakthrough infections seem to be a bigger thing

https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/1424011542195023878?s=19

iceland has 93% of people over 16 vaccinated and the highest number of infections ever

well, its not like we needed more proof that the vaccines do not stop the spread in a significant way

i said it before and i will say it again, we have to move on from infection numbers, they dont mean shit even with everybody vaxxed

vaccines only prevent hospitalization and thats it, get it or do not get it and lets move on