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Apr 15 2022 05:49am
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Apr 15 2022 02:07pm)
Pretty stupid nazi discussion here. There should be a couple of nazis in almost all countries in Europa and even in russia.

How does that justify bombing civilian homes and shooting families, raping women, destroying the whole country?

Everyone falling for this is pathetic



ThE OmG NAzis crowd are just basement dwelling kids taking a position that they think makes them look clever and stand out of what they perceive as "mainstream sheep crowd"
Ukrainian nationalists basically come out of far right football club ultra movements and their numbers expressed as a % of total Azov forces is less than 15%
Russian propaganda simply uses doctored images or same images such as here

and splatters them all over the internet to create an image of many thousands of Ukrainian nazi fascists, and this crowd plays right into the hands of russkie lies.
Same russkie state that glorifies USSR which told its citizens that people in USA are starving, blacks are being killed by death squads and theres rampant poverty in western Europe (even thesis is the same)
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Apr 15 2022 05:50am
Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 15 2022 09:59am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/.premium-inside-the-extremist-group-that-dreams-of-ruling-ukraine-1.6936835
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-rise-of-warlords-threatens-ukraines-recovery/2014/12/30/a23b2d36-8f7b-11e4-a412-4b735edc7175_story.html
https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-right-movement-facebook/
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/24/ukraine-azov-battalion.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraines-anti-russia-azov-battalion-minutemen-or-neo-nazi-terrorists
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/17/theres-one-far-right-movement-that-hates-the-kremlin-azov-ukraine-biletsky-nouvelle-droite-venner/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook
https://twitter.com/adl/status/1176238081688702981?lang=en

Which of these is Russian Propaganda? Please identify, I'd like to report them to the internet police

/e also aren't those articles quaint when you read them now. I like this:



meanwhile, today in 2022:

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/



and an active page of theirs for example; https://www.facebook.com/UAstruggle

Again, if the Nazis are some marginalized tiny minority, why the fuck are the Ukrainian army facebook pages being run by Nazis and half the posts are Nazi propaganda? How many interviews with Azov commanders and pictures of their nazi symbols on flags would show up otherwise? I don't even have to dig for them, its every other post on that feed. Top post right now is a picture with an SS wolfsangel flag. Just go to reddit's world news sub and look at the live feed, its a real endless stream of Nazis being cheered on by nu-liberals. That's the propaganda being blared from the Ukrainian side lmao


Linking 2014 articles to Azov, which has 2,500 members or less, and making false equivalences to Syria on repeat. If anything, this has solidified my views
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Apr 15 2022 05:55am
This morning in Kharkiv Ukrainian forces shot down Russian plane, 2 helicopters that came to rescue the pilots where turned into scrap metal as well. At this rate there will be no pilots left in poot-land



https://i.ibb.co/jfQ0ywk/photo-2022-04-15-12-40-34.jpg
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Apr 15 2022 05:57am


Russkie fascist captain of Moskva flagman ship that was sunk went down to the bottom with it.
Good riddance
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Igor Osypov - main commander and admiral of russkie Black Sea fleet has been arrested after strategic failures leading up to the loss of russkie moskva ship.
Russia claims that the fire and explosion was due to human error by the crew, so why arrest the commanding admiral?
Russia contradicting itself per usual.
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Apr 15 2022 06:16am
Always sad to watch the degeneracy, the fall, of a country and culture.
100 years of corruption. Communism or Capitalism were only words.
/e btw it could be more than 100 years, dunno how it was in the 1800's

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 15 2022 06:42am
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Apr 15 2022 06:31am
/e paywall

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 15 2022 06:33am
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Apr 15 2022 06:42am
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 15 2022 04:54am)
We're asking for actual evidence of nazism being widespread and politically relevant in Ukraine other than a handful of small groups, it's not a difficult ask


Your standard for proof is inexplicably high here. Well I mean I get it because we all want good versus bad in wars where our guys are definitely the good guys. Just another western source below pointing to the obvious that i'm sure won't register

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A top Nazi hunter and Holocaust scholar says Canada failed when it allowed Ukrainian military personnel connected to far-right groups to receive training as recently as 17 months ago.

Some Jewish groups have watched with concern as journalists have lionized the unit or made excuses for its actions by pointing out there are only a few neo-Nazis in the organization. Japan’s Public Security Intelligence Agency reportedly removed Azov from its international terrorist list.

Still, the far-right sympathies of some Ukrainian military units have proved to be a problem. NATO recently used Twitter to highlight women in Ukraine’s military but had to pull the tweet after social media users pointed out women pictured were wearing Nazi-affiliated insignia.

Others have claimed allegations made against the Azov regiment are part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

Zuroff dismisses such claims. “It’s not Russian propaganda, far from it,” he explained. “These people are neo-Nazis. There is an element of the ultra-right in Ukraine and it’s absurd to ignore it.”


https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canada-failed-when-it-trained-ukrainian-troops-linked-to-the-far-right-says-nazi-hunter
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Apr 15 2022 07:05am
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Apr 15 2022 12:07pm)
Pretty stupid nazi discussion here. There should be a couple of nazis in almost all countries in Europa and even in russia.

How does that justify bombing civilian homes and shooting families, raping women, destroying the whole country?

Everyone falling for this is pathetic


long live the nazis!
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